Minute 97: “I believe you can go to hell.”

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Transcribed automatically from the audio, and imperfect for it — names and punchlines suffer worst. Useful for finding a moment, not for quoting one.

0:00Welcome to The Matrix Minute, where we talk about The Matrix movie one minute at a time. I'm Phil, and here is Jakura. But there should also be some other person who will talk later. So, let's get some Agent Smith. This is Agent Talk. Let's see if you can get this quote.

0:40Never send pigeons to do a machine's bidding. Welcome to the Minute 97. That will be very okay. All right. That's good. All right. Enough of that. 1997 was a wonderful moment. I'm done with this. The year is 1997. That is true. We have to survive. It's going to be like this for the next 20 episodes. Yeah.

1:20Because we know. We live these times. 1997. Wasn't that the call in the shape when the Foo Fighters came out in 97? Or no? Yeah, but it was too wee to know that. Didn't Lola Run come out in 97? Oh, are we talking about what we know? Lola Run. Lola Run. Personally? What comes to mind as soon as 1997? Not just random trivia. Austria, Euro, Beat, Pop sort of. Backstreet Boys? Backstreet Boys. Yeah. To me, it's really hard because these years, all I just remember is Lego catalogs. I can tell you what everything was. How many Lego catalogs did you go through? You must have gone through all of them. Well, they had two each year. It was like a spring one and then one for the winter.

2:02And I would collect all of them. I think they're back home. I have like a stack of like, I think from like 1993 or 4, I collected them until like, well now, if I see a Lego catalog laying in a shop, I just take it. Cool. I love that. I remember, I memorized all the numbers. Like, so if like my grandma or someone asked me, which Lego you want? I'd be like, oh, can I have the 642 please? Are you serious? Yeah. Oh yeah, because the numbers. You're a nerd. And I would pick the Legos because I would look at them in detail and find out which, which like blocks are in there that I needed for my mega builds. Oh wow, look at you. I didn't really care what they were, like how they look. I just care for what the blocks are there.

2:42Oh yeah, the pieces. Really? That's weird. Because I couldn't order them. I don't know how it looked, but that's the whole point. No. Not really. I would make my own. For Tim, he would do his own thing. Just like what he does with video games when we play multiplayer, like Halo. We played Halo Combat Evolved with Tim over the internet. We weren't playing the actual game. We were just going stacking up. We were for the most part. Stacking up warthogs. Those are the final days. I know, but stacking up warthogs and seeing how far they fly up into the air. Well, you know, a special trivia, this is a great moment to mention this, is that me, Tim, and our friend Pista, who we never mentioned on the podcast. Is a famous singer. Famous pop star. He's like, you know, my friend. Famous pop star. Yes, he's famous. He's so famous. From India. No, he's not from India. But anyway, us three in Halo Combat Evolved, the original game.

3:25PC. Played 10 years later for some reason. We discovered, if you're familiar, if you've ever played Halo Combat Evolved, there is the Warthog vehicle, right? In the Warthog, if you look inside and look at the dashboard of the Warthog, there's actually a meter. Oh, yeah. That displays the speed of the car. So when you enter in and you hit the gas pedal, the meter goes up, you know? It's basically like a bar. Yeah. Right? It wasn't like four or five blocks in the bar. It's like, do-do-do-do. And it goes up. And so we hypothesized, is this truly from pressing down the gas pedal? Or is this just based on motion?

4:07Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're moving, yeah. And in our scientific study and experiment that we conducted. Well, that is exactly what science is. On the map of... Experiment that included many grenades as well. Oh, many grenades and a lot of trial and error and a lot of, you know, meleeing the back of the Warthog with the assault rifle. Yes. We concluded, scientifically, without objection and with evidence, concrete evidence, that in fact is based on motion. Recorded evidence, too. Yep. You can smack that thing and then the speed will go up. So regardless of whether you hit the gas pedal, that bar will fill up as long as it's going somewhere. Now the question is, is that true in real life as well?

4:49Let us test it together. Yeah. Would you... We'll make our own Mythbusters episode. Yeah. But anyway, that just shows us how much we exhausted Halo. Oh yeah, we were at Legos. I'm like... Yeah. I'm not like a grinder kind of person. I hate puzzles. Like, you know, classic puzzles. That's like the worst piece of entertainment for me ever. Puzzles in what sense? Like the normal cardboard. Yeah, like cardboard ones and you like, you have to put the picture together. Right. It infuriates me. What's that to do with Lego? Because Lego is also... Because Lego is kind of like a puzzle. Right. It's like, but people go like, oh, you like Lego? When I was a kid, like people would go like, oh, you like Legos? Here's a puzzle. And I'm like, I can't make anything out of this.

5:30This is stupid. I just have to make this picture. I would never make that connection. Lego puzzle. I guess like older people were like, oh, it's like a, it's like a, like a builder kind of thing, you know, but like puzzles suck because you can only make one thing. One way, one thing. And as a grinder thing, you have to just like grind through it. I hate that. We used to collect a few Legos, but they were movie themed. They're Star Wars themed. Yeah. We used to collect those pretty much. And those are fun. I like that. We, I follow the instructions and I made the... I thought it was cool. Yeah. But yeah. We had a couple of those. We weren't thinking like Tim, Tim just wanted the pieces so he could make his own. Quick, quick story since we're all Legos. I don't think I ever mentioned this anywhere. A long time ago, I was a kid. I went to my friend's house. His name was Brandt. And it was amazing because I had never seen in my life the organization of his Lego.

6:16Or is it Lego or Legos? I don't know the rules. Yeah. I think the official, people called Legos in America, but I think the official person of Legos came out and said Lego is already plural. So you can just say. His amazing organization of Lego was that he had these nice boxes, you know, like toolkits. Oh yeah. What do you think I had, man? All the colors, all the colors separated. No way, dude. Yeah. All the special stuff separated. I didn't know this either. I think he had a big bag. Like, no, what are you crazy? No. How could you build like that? It's impossible to build like that. Well, then you'd be surprised.

6:56I don't know if you'd be surprised or not, but like seeing our Neanderthal way of. You had a giant plastic bag. A giant plastic bag. Just everything's there. Yeah. Good luck finding your pieces. I mean, now it's in a big box because of kids. But back in the day, like anytime my dad would discard like a tool organization thing, like he would buy a new one, like for his like screws and everything. I would just like take it and be like, ha ha ha, one more box for my Legos. And I would separate everything. So you actually had everything, like your pieces and your colors and. The first one, the organization I did, my brother helped me. I bought, I bought like a, there was this, I don't know, we were moving or something like there was this big box. And what I did, I, I took all my Lego, you know, when you get a Lego, it's in like a

7:40cardboard box and I would cut out the top end. So you make like a container and I glued all these little Lego boxes into this big box. So I can have like, you know, separated Legos. That was my first separation job. Like back in 1995, it was like six or seven. That's crazy. Never knew that. That's, that's pretty ridiculous. Speaking of, can I just finish my thing? But when I went to Brant's house, I felt so like semi guilty because, you know, we were building stuff using these elaborately organized pieces. And I always feel bad. Like, oh man, when I'm done, I have to like put everything back. Just worried the entire time. I was worried the entire time. But he had these cool colors, like gray and black. And I was making like, you know, like, you know, when you make a Lego assembly where it

8:25has nice colors and not the junky white and red and the wing is green and the tail. Why would I do it? No, man. Everything must be color correct. And I love like picking out a pattern of like two colors you combine. See, I would do that now. But as a kid, I could not. What do you want to say, Phil? I just wanted to say that you said it was a revelation, right? Because of Tim. Well, in this minute, Smith has a revelation. Okay. And let's check it out. We'll check it out. Let's check it out. Okay. So minute 97. And since I'm the ranking officer on this ship, if you don't like it, I believe you can go to hell because you aren't going anywhere else. Tank, load us up. Back at the government building, Agent Smith takes a seat next to Morpheus and shares a revelation

9:09that he's had during his time here and talks to him about classifying his species. He believes that they are not mammals. Humans multiply until every natural resource is consumed, so they spread to another area. I just love Morpheus. Just like, oh. More of his stories. This is his Wikipedia stuff. Yeah. His wrong interpretation. He's like a, you know, like a. Misinformation. He's like the YouTube guy. The world is actually flat. I read this article. Have you seen this YouTube video that's three hours long? Yeah, yeah. Let me play you on my phone. Oh, I'm horrible.

9:49Watch this, Morpheus. This is a funny one. Watch this. Watch this, Morpheus. It's a funny one. Funny one. No, no, wait for the next one. Wait, wait, wait. The battery's going out and I'll just put it into electricity. Here you go. Come, come. Scoot over here where the plug is. Do you know what the worst is, though? When someone makes you watch a funny video on their phone, but they're not paying attention. Yeah. So you're left alone. Yeah, going. To watch this video. And it's like 10 minutes. And they leave it for you. And you're like. Actually. I always cheat, dude. Like when I end up watching, I'm just like skip forward. That's so funny. Yeah, I know, I know. I just watch and go. Yeah. I'll have to tell you the most awkward video that I saw of someone having to look at some video was Christopher Sabat, who does the voice of the American voice for Vegeta and

10:36other characters, you know, Piccolo and other characters for the, you know, American dub of Dragon Ball Z for Funimation. That's why they sound so similar. Yeah. Yeah. I always wondered. And he went really high up there. Like he used to just be a normal voice actor, but now he's, you know, one of the heads of Funimation Studios where they do the, you know, English dubs of all kinds of anime. And at a convention, this was like 2009 or something. I watched on YouTube. Someone recorded a fan trying to show him Dragon Ball Abridged. And it was very, very awkward because this is in a convention hall. So lots of people. And he brought his laptop. And it was so bad.

11:17It wasn't from a phone. It was from his laptop. And he was just kind of like, Christopher Sabat was like being nice and trying to listen through the little speakers to Dragon Ball Z Abridged. And it was just, I couldn't watch it. This is, oh. Sad. Social cringe. Lovely. Yes. Lovely. So back here, Trinity says, you're going to go to hell. And I'll send you there. Yeah. That's what she said. She says, one way ticket to hell. Well, what she says is like, since I am the ranking officer on this ship, I believe that if you don't like that, I believe you can go to hell. I love that. It's one of the best lines ever, I think. Yeah, definitely. I think Trinity's got the best one-liners in this movie. She does, man. Well, Dodge This is a classic.

11:57Yeah. There's so many good ones. Think about it. Yeah. She's badass. She's not, she's not, what's the word? What's the word I'm looking for? No, no, no, no, no. The word where you don't talk a lot, but when you talk, it means something. I don't know. Like Silent Bob? I don't know. No, no. She's a woman of few words, I guess, in some sense. Yeah, yeah. Not completely, but when she speaks, you listen, basically. Yeah. It's not like she's talking all movie. She's not Morpheus. No, no, no. Morpheus does not stop. Reverend Morpheus. So, yeah, that's a great line. And it's great because it puts Neo in his place in this instance.

12:40And she's, again, just saying, yep, this is what I'm doing. We're going. And I'm not listening to anyone. Tank, the Lotus up. I always like that. I always like that. That, you know, she kind of kicks that in. And it's great because Joseph backs it up, like, with the ranking officer thing. Yeah, yeah. And plus, it's also because, you know, Neo, it's still so, well, there's not many people to office. But not only that, but she's also showing that Neo's new here, regardless of which way you spin it, regardless of the prophecy or whatever. He's new and he's. Yeah. What do you think you're doing? Yeah, what do you think you're doing? Who do you think you are? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So. You've been to the Matrix once. I get the first share of the goop. Did you know that? I get two portions. Yeah. I get your goop the first month.

13:21I eat your goop. I do. I don't eat two portions. But then Neo goes, I hate the new goop. There's no new goop and it sucks. Yeah. They don't have a dozer anymore. There's no dozer. Dozer's secret brew is gone. And only he knew it. It was only up in here in his mind. Yeah. Because he's like, secret recipe, secret recipe. And everyone's like, come on, why don't you just write it down? No, no, no. Secret recipe. Don't worry. And now he's dead. Now what? Now the goop's proud. Exactly. Now Tank tried to make something, but it's just not as good. You know that thing where it's like, you know, generations pass down their company to their kids. It's like, this isn't what it used to be. Tank took over, but not the same. I miss the same goddamn goop every day. This new goop, not good.

14:02Yeah. So Smithy pulls up a chair. Pulls up a nice little chair. And then he goes to, you know, hyper. The music completely stops now. There's no music. Like he's the YouTuber. He's the guy, the conspiracy guy. He made up his own theory about what humans are. Oh yes, yes, yes, yes. You could imagine him putting a V for Vendetta mask on. And you see, you see, you see what I did? I connected it. And you can see Morpheus getting a taste of his own goddamn medicine. Yep. Oh my goodness. That is a good point. I never thought of it. He's getting the preaching now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How does it feel, Morpheus?

14:44And then Agent Smith goes, Morpheus, let me link you to this YouTube video. It's three hours and 30 minutes. Changed my mind. It explains everything. And he's like, I really, I think you should watch it. I really recommend that. I was just another machine, another program. But I watched his YouTube video. Blame. Program. Oh. And it opened my mind. It literally blew my mind. You know what got me to click it? It was the title wasn't all caps. In the picture, there was a lady with big boobies. There was no boobies in the video. And next to the lady with boobies, there was a pyramid with an eye, all seeing eye. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there was flames in the background.

15:25And lots of arrows. Red arrows. Red arrows pointing to boobies and eyes and everything. And the text was yellow. It blinded my eyes. But in blinding my eyes. I couldn't look away. It opened my eyes. And in my blindness, I see, saw. Yes, yes. And it said truth with lots of exclamation points. Yes. Which told me that must be real. It started with X-Files music. And that's always a good sign. And when the documentary kept going, I thought, wow, this music is so spooky. Yeah. It means what they're saying is true. And the narration started with Microsoft Sam. And me, that's a soft spot for me because I'm a machine and hearing that proto-

16:08So we could say we had a- Vintage connection. Yeah, yeah. It's good. Do you believe it? No. I knew that. Yeah, Microsoft. Kick me in the clothes list. It could have been also- Remember Shit Talker? For you, for you. Did you guys remember that application, Shit Talker? Yes. Yes. Yeah, yeah. It was called Shit Talker 3000. Anyone knows? I don't know what it was. I would like everyone who's listening who lived during that time to tell us about Shit Talker. Please do. Yeah, it was amazing. Because it was a text-to-speech. Yes. I don't even know why- But you could have macros. You could have macros. You could have pre-recorded- You would have pre-recorded messages that you could just click. You would have this big tab and you would write.

16:50It wasn't just writing and he was saying it, but you could have a soundboard of things you already told him to do it. So you could have a conversation and give it replies. Interesting. I remember I called my friend once to do it and then I recorded all the stuff and put the phone on the speaker and try to talk and it was funny. When I was eight years old, it was a time when Stan was living with us when he showed us that program. And guess what I asked him as an eight-year-old? You know the story, Phil. I don't know. Do you have to put proper capitalization? And Stan goes, do you use proper capitalization when you're talking? Oh, it's Stan. He's a smooth talker. It's smooth, man. Blew your mind. But it was great because that was purely logical and, you know, of course.

17:34It's like, what kind of question is that to the capitalization? The machine can't understand a sentence without proper capitalization. Also, there was a bunch of voices on that, weren't there? Yeah, like Chip Mom. Shit talker, I'm all around for you when you understand. We should look that up. It's going to be like the most advanced shit talker I know. It's going to be like a conversation. Dude, they're probably like insane. Like Siri. So Morpheus, Agent Smith is, as we talked about. He's preaching to him. He's giving him the Wikipedia treatment. Yeah. He said, I realize that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment.

18:14But you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and you multiply until every last resource is consumed. Not necessarily true. I am not. Okay, perfect. I am not good in biology and the animal kingdoms and nature. Tim, if he started talking about evolution like the dinosaur, I don't think, you know, trust him about his research. I think like Wikipedia, but he doesn't even look at the like the approved stuff. He just looks at what people wrote. Like, like looks at the history. He's like, I like this one. This is the best one. Oh, he's like picking the best ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The versions. You guys, as people who are better versed. No, you and Tim. Oh. As better versed in understanding biology and these types of things.

18:57Okay. Sure. Let's, you know. Yeah, sure. Let's say that. More than me. I mean, that's not saying a ton, but it's, you know, it's a start. Do you think, is this a true statement? Because I think, aren't there some animals who do indeed like trash the place and leave? Any animal. It's not the animals that, any mammal or any animal, if they had the freedom of doing this, they will overpopulate and completely destroy the ecosystem. It happened before. And it's completely fine. The system, the chaos of the system governs itself. That's the point. It's not the animals. They're not conscious. They're like, oh, we're animals. We bread too much.

19:37We must stop. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, like, do you have any instincts to just deplete the resources and then go and find more resources somewhere else? That's what life is. That's what life does. It depletes all resources. It's very selfish. But Agent Smith is saying they develop an equilibrium with the environment. They don't. The system, that's how a system regulates. Because there are more creatures and, you know, there's predators and there's herbivores and there's all these things. And they fall in a symbion circle. What happens to one of them affects the other. You must understand. A lot of animals eat other animals, at least in terms of carnivore. Yes. Universe animals. Yeah, yeah. But it can offset any time. And it did multiple times in history. And it kind of goes swift one direction and the other direction.

20:18And it's not a conscious choice of one of the animals saying, you know what? This is crazy. I'm just going to, you know, we're not going to put any equilibrium. You know, it's just like. Of course not. This is all sensual. Yeah, it kind of calibrates itself. You know, some animals, look at the dinosaurs. They're gone. You know? I see, I see. I like the dinosaur. Because their balls are too hot, apparently. What happens to herbivore? Animals who are herbivores. Yeah. They eat my carnivores? Yes, yes, that's right. Like, sure. If, like, the dinosaur, like, let's say someone's natural predator would disappear and then they get too strong and they eat all the herbivores. And this happened. Like, many species just, like, completely died out. That is true. Because of an imbalance in the ecosystem, you know?

20:59Because there's a lot of species that are extinct. Many. Who's gone? Most of them. Most of them. Most of them are extinct. That is so true. That's crazy when you think about that. Yeah. But it's not as sort of like as he presents it, obviously, you know? And humans, yes, humans are different. But that's because we are aware of our self-consciousness. So let's have Tim sit there and go, you know, Tim is captured. He was the leader of the Nebuchadnezzar. And he gets captured by Smith. And Smith's saying the same thing. And then you're like, no, that's not true. Tim would be, Tim would be, no, it's, it's not entirely. You and your evolution of the fittest.

21:41I would like, I would like, you know, like pull the little things off of what would, the little heart monitors off myself. Stand up, make myself a drink. Pull my chair. Listen, Agent Smith, you're new to this thing. You're fresh programmed. Let me, let me, let me tell you how it is. Let me show you this YouTube video. Let me show you. You would show him a YouTube video. Look, this is, this is, this is David Attenborough. Here, here, watch this. It's good. You'd have to, you'd have to describe the origin of species. You'd have to be, look at these fish. They change sex when, when these fish live on the stupid boat underwater and they're all females. And then one, when one of them is the strongest and the fattest, goes under, underground, turns into a human, comes out and mates with everyone.

22:22Look at this. Turns into a human. All right. Sorry, sorry. Turns to male. Sorry. Turns to human and mates with everyone. That's it. I was lost when you were talking about that. I was like, fish turning into humans? What is this? Sorry, sorry. It's the way you're talking. He's going to make mermaids. That's how mermaids were made. And then guess what went through my mind for a second. I thought, are we evolved from fish? And I was like, oh no. Well, we all are. We're common ancestors. Okay. So let's, let's go. Look at this shit. We all have a common ancestors. So he's, he just, he just lays this on Morpheus. Morpheus is probably not even listening anymore. I don't think so. I think he hears, do you know what he hears? Charlie Brown. Wah, wah, wah, wah. Wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah. Man, that Morpheus is like, wah, wah, wah, wah.

23:03That's going to be a trailer now. Yeah. Wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah. He's trying to psychology connect with Neo. Send some vibes. Neo, like, you know, like, Neo, if you're there, if you can hear me. He's trying to muster a spirit bomb behind his back. Give me your energy. Happens to be to be trying to fart. Poor Morpheus. Like the dinosaur, poor Morpheus. Can't even break some chains. So the equilibrium theory isn't really great. No, but there is a movie that's like the Matrix called Equilibrium. With Christian Bale. Yeah, this. Yep. We should watch that. I hated that movie. Because my friend. I mean, like, I think, though, there is some truth to it in the sense that when animals,

23:47they do gain characteristics that help them survive in certain environments. I mean, that's why animals go through those weird, you know, habits and rituals that I think are the memes being packed. I'm just imagining, like, bunnies sacrificing baby bunnies or something. There's like torches and koala temples. Oh, bring the equilibrium of the bunnies. But listen, memes, right? The theory proposed by Richard Dawkins is, I think, true. The memes that are passed down, characteristic traits. Yeah, yeah. I know, but... Isn't that part of... Like, isn't that a pretty big part of how these environments and animals develop in those

24:28environments? The problem is that this is a classic example of people not understanding how this kind of environment works. This is classic creative person, a narrative person, using personification of something that doesn't exist. It's governed by a chaos that has certain rules. And there's no... And, you know, like, the animals are not aware of this. This is something that happens as a system. I've never seen the animals are aware of this. No, I'm not. I'm just saying that the traits get passed on if they're beneficial. No? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. That's what I'm talking about. But we're talking about, like, they're not, like... If an animal somehow was, like, didn't have whatever the environment it was in, it was

25:16too, like, you know, beneficial to it, right? It would overpopulate, right? Eventually, it would, like, probably die out or something like that. Rise of the koalas. But it's not like animals are somehow, you know... Did anyone hear how koalas sound? Animals are not sound how wet. Let me finish a sentence. Like, they're morally, like, superior to us because they're just not aware of it at all. I know, Tim. I'm not saying that at all. I know. I'm just saying that Smith got it wrong. It's like, you know, like humans... Oh, so you... But the thing is, I don't think Smith is talking about that. I don't think Smith is talking about that animals are aware. I don't think animals are aware. What's he talking about, Jim? Let's form a committee. He's just saying, like, we're not mammals. We're viruses, you know?

25:56Like, he's trying to say... Can I draw out a card real quick? Yeah. And just say, Smith never encountered real animals. That is true. That is true. He's talking about his butt. Yeah, yeah. Listen, Smith... This is the computerized... It's the simulacrum thing, remember? Yes. It's the symbol of a symbol. Yes, there you go. The pseudo-philosophy that we're talking about. Yeah. Yeah. I wanted to say that Smith... I'm just saying that I think, and I always listened... I always thought that he was saying this, is that the animals, like you said... Of course, they're not aware of this stuff, but it's a natural process that happens. And he's saying that we as humans, since we are conscious, we're going against the natural patterns and doing whatever we want. That's what he's saying. Okay, but because my...

26:37And he's saying that that's not good because we're being, you know, irresponsible and destroying environments and just sucking up resources and stuff. Well, okay. So that's your understanding. But mine is the opposite. He's saying that mammals are... Like, he's basically making an assumption that humans are different and then doing this. I'm just saying that any other mammal or animal that had the same opportunity as humans will do the same damn thing. This is what I'm saying. You know what I mean? I see. There's no difference. It's not the opinion of the creatures themselves. It's the environment they're in. That's what I'm saying. And he's blamed... He's like, oh, you humans are like viruses.

27:17And then it's like, it's just the environment that changes, you know? Any other creature is life itself would just sort of multiply until every resources would deplete it. It doesn't matter if it's a virus, mammal, or a human, you know? Sure, what you're saying is great. Like, that humans have a conscious decision. He's arguing that we as machines are more responsible. That's what he's saying. Sure. You know, machine superiority. Exactly. That's what he's talking about. That's a big cell. That's a big cell. That's a big pitch. That's it. We're just more superior and we're not like... Hey, look. She went to machine school. This is what they teach him. This is the propaganda. Exactly. Well, with that, I think our minute is over. And the first lecture is...

27:58Our minute is over. The first lecture is, remember, kids, evolution is survival of the fittest. Who's the fittest? Who's the fittest? Machines! I just keep saying that. I'm sorry. I love, like, little school and there's, like, the teacher goes, so, um, what are the humans like? They're not like mammals. Yes? Uh, little smith? They're like viruses. That's right. That's right. A cookie for you. Here, I'll show you a picture of virus and human. Look, they're basically the same. See? Human virus. But that looks like those robots that, you know, like, that put the babies in the little thing. Never mind that. Never mind. Oh, man. Oh, man.

28:39I love Tim's little kid voice. It's the best. Jimmy. Jimmy. You're riddling. Ah, this minute is over. So that's it. Hey, this is it. That's it, guys. Well, join us on the discussion. Heated Discussions at the Matrix. Heated Discussion. Tell us your opinion of Smith's... Yeah. Smith's, what are they called? Ponderings. No, what's the word I'm looking for? Like, questionable. His questionable theories. Smith's, you know, but it's okay. But what did you think Smith said? Yeah. Do you agree with me or do you agree with Tim? Probably with me. Or do you agree with Phil? But anyway.

29:19I didn't. I had no opinion. That's what I mean. Do you agree with silence? Thank you, everyone. No, what do you... Wait, wait, wait. Stop, stop, stop. Hold the phone. Hold the phone for a second. Okay. What do you think, Phil? Yeah, what do you think? I agree with Tim. What? Yeah. Why would you agree with Tim? Because... Tim was putting words in my mouth saying that I think animals are conscious. Suck on that, Jacob. And with that bombshell, this minute is over. Join us at the Matrix Minute RSS chat where we talk about... No, RSS chat. Do you know RSS stands for quick quiz? Join us on our... No, no, quiz. What's the new hot thing right now? Our rocket scientist section. No, our new hot thing that's going on for chatting. Just a second.

29:59Just a second. Before the pop quiz, I'm going to say, do you want us on our Discord? Yeah. Discord. Oh, yeah, Discord. No, that's our... What was the stupid chats back in the day? Like the web chats? What was that called? It was like RSS... MSQRD or something? No, that's this, this, this, this. It was an app. I just know AAM. No, like the web chat. Like the DeviantArt chat. What was it called? Like you go to rooms? Oh, oh, oh. Q something? I was like RC? C something? ICQ? RC. No, ICQ is a... RCQ. Is another app. RCQ. I think that's it. Tell us now, what the hell was the chat doing back in the 2000s? But Phillip, what's RSS stand for?

30:40Really simple syndication. Really? Thanks, folks. See you in a while. I mean, Friday. That's all, folks. Bye. Bye. I thought it was going to be like Mealsong Snake. I don't know. I don't know. Thank you.