Minute 52: “You’re too fast.”

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Transcribed automatically from the audio, and imperfect for it — names and punchlines suffer worst. Useful for finding a moment, not for quoting one.

0:00Welcome to the Matrix Minute, a podcast where we discuss the first Matrix film, one minute at a time. I am Phil. Guess what? I have no trivia. Whoa. I am a... What? I'm a... You... I've always had trivia. That in itself is trivia. Hey! I saved it. Thank you, George. With us is George. We've been riding on that one for a while. George Henricks of the Mogwai Minute. Hello, welcome back. Wednesday, here we are. Hey, thanks for having me back. I'm glad I didn't get kicked out after the first one. Oh, no, no. You're here all week. Now they're going to kick me out. You're not going to escape this, man. My name is Jake. And I finished my mineral water, in case you're interested.

0:42That's a long mineral water. It took three days. It took you three days? Wow. Yes. Yeah. And I'm Tim, and my hair is horrible. I need a haircut. It's so bad, I'm actually wearing a hat inside my own house. That is bad. Because I don't want to catch myself in the mirror looking like a... So I'm sitting here like an asshole with a hat on recording this podcast. George, do you wear hats indoors or hats in general? I have a very large head and fluffy hair, so I don't ever wear hats. Hmm. Nice. Yeah, hats never fit me either. I'm a non-hat person. Which, actually, if you listen to the Mogwai Minute, you'll find out. Because we talk about that at some point. Nice. I've been in your situation for a very long time. Until, just by accident, I couldn't wear hats because my hat is humongous.

1:25And I couldn't wear hats. And just one day, at the store, I was just jokingly put a hat on, and it was like one of those movie moments. When I was like, oh, this hat actually fits and it looks good on my head. I would buy it. So you're talking about caps, right? You have baseball caps. Baseball caps. Yeah, baseball caps. The weird thing is, for me, I have this problem where if I put on a baseball cap, what'll happen is it just doesn't sit right on my ears. So the only real way it works is if I put it over my ears. But then it looks weird. Like, no one wears a baseball cap over my ears. That is weird. No, you gotta have the ears out, man. I know, but it doesn't work for me. The ears must go out. It doesn't work. What do you mean? Like, the hat has, there's too much space in the hat when I put it on my ears. So my hair has a lot of volume, and so when I put a hat on, it just feels like everything's constricted.

2:08And so I'd rather just let my hair do its thing, and I don't wear hats. That sounds pretty good. That sounds like a good deal. But then again, I also don't really have too much of a desire to wear a hat. I would, though, maybe wear, like, a cowboy hat. That sounds good. Really? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. I mean, sure, where you live, but there's, like, cool cowboy hats. Like, one of those, like, the, you know, the gravedigger cowboy hat. You know, like, what else? I don't know. It's like, it's got like a, you know, it's like, it's very, it's not a shape, you know, it's like a, you, it's like straight. The, the, the, the hat. Oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a, like a Undertaker kind of. Yes, exactly that. Like a straight rim. Sort of like squishy leather look.

2:48I guess, but it's like, the brim is like straight and like black. I think that might work on a top hat. No, no, no. No, not a top hat. It's like, it's like, it's like a, it's like a, it's like a, the, the brim. Like a Quaker. Yes. A Quaker hat. Okay, sure. And thus concludes the hair. But what's great about this is that no character in any of the Matrix films actually wears a hat. So I think. No, wait, wait, wait, wait. That's a lie. Morpheus. Morpheus. His special. Doesn't Cypher also wear a hat? Does he? I think Cypher's the only guy who doesn't. Oh. I just know Morpheus. He has a special EMP hat. This is the best thing in the world.

3:28You're getting shushed. No, this is the best thing in the world and I want to talk about it when the time comes. Phil's been waiting for a long time for his. Because I. Because that thing. He's been waiting for a lot of things. That thing is ridiculous. Okay, we're going to go back to that. Just don't edit this out, Philip. I won't. I won't edit this out. Okay, so this. We're on minute 52 now and the fight continues and this is what happens in minute 52. You're too fast, Neo says. Morpheus answers. Do you believe that my being stronger and faster has anything to do with my muscles in this place? No. Neo shakes his head and is asked if that's air he's breathing now. They spar once more with the crew on the neb looking on with more interest. Once again, Morpheus gains the upper hand and that's minute 52.

4:12No, so I think the way it sort of builds the... Well, like I said, he's sort of building up his power level. So he's not just saying, you can do everything, go do it. He's showing him bit by bit like this is what you do when you think this. But if you sort of take a minute and then think this, then you can do a little bit more. And the more they talk about it, the more they sort of philosophize about what is being, what is the idea of who you are in your own mind and what you can accomplish and personal boundaries and where you set yourself. The more he does that, like the better he gets. That's so true. And so he really is just sort of like, he's not only being his sensei in the fact that they're sparring, but he's being his mental sensei.

4:53Right. And I think also to add to that is sort of, this is maybe tapping into the idea again, which is a theme in the film is somehow, you know, transcending in some sense. So like with here, this is obviously the blending of, you know, the spirit and the body, right? Sort of like these two, the mind and the body. And here, like George was saying, you know, he's sort of trying to teach Neo there's a difference here. Yeah. And it's not, you're not limited. No. To what you think. Because this is all a battle in the mind. Right. In essence. But there is also a great connection between the body, which I think is sort of more Eastern philosophy stuff.

5:36Yeah. And you have the Eastern philosophy, which is, you know, in martial arts and everything. But you also have this, what we kind of grew up with, you know, if you believe it, everything is possible kind of mindset that Hollywood movies and cartoons. Well, yeah. It's the Yoda. It's a do or do not. There is no try, you know. Stop thinking about doing it. Just do it. Yeah. Which I don't personally like that much, but I think it's great that in this sense, it is absolutely practical because it's true. I mean, I want to look at like how does it actually work? Because what is he saying is that, okay, try not to move conventionally as you would, as you know, the physics are.

6:17Try to push yourself with the mind, like think of doing something that's not physically possible. I mean, that's what he's saying, right? Because it's all not physically. So if you want to. So what he's saying is don't follow your instinct in a way was like think really hard on what you do and then try to achieve that. Like, which is interesting. I mean, I wonder how, I guess the limit is the person's mind in here. Would you think that? I think to a degree, yeah. I mean, there's different ways to look at it. You can look at it strictly like you're speaking sort of in the physical sense and sort of like what exactly is happening within the construct. But I guess another way to look at it is again, thematically in sort of the sense of some kind of a spiritual dimension, which ties into the one as well.

7:04And sort of, you know, seeing beyond simply reality and then what is reality? You know, these types of questions. Right. Yeah. In order to manipulate reality, you have to know what reality is. And he's just showing him where his boundaries are. That's a really good way to put it. There you go. So I think that answers your question, Tim. Neo's doubting his skills. He's like, you're just too fast. And also, yeah. And also just to show Neo, I think because Neo is just, you know, this is completely new to him. Yes. He's still thinking in that physical. He's still thinking of the limits of sort of like what we know and kind of reality and physical reality. You're too fast. And he's like, you think my muscles have anything to do with this? But it is a good question, Tim, you mentioned. I don't know really what are, if there are limits.

7:44I mean, clearly there are limits in the matrix. But I wonder, because, you know. I wonder how many rules can you bend and to what degree, right? Because like. Well, you know, eventually he does, he's able to like literally manipulate time and space. Right. But that's the one. Right. But I guess this is part of the journey. Yeah. So theoretically, then, yeah, I guess it would be. The hero's journey. The hero's journey. This is, I think, the call to action. Yeah. Sorry, we have a running joke where Jake kept saying it was the call to action and the hero's journey. And he kind of overstepped it a little bit too much. I think we did three times in a row. And so we're just, we're just going with that. This is probably the call to action. Okay.

8:24And this is, you know, nitpicking and dissecting a movie to a level that isn't healthy. But if you look at the construct or the matrix as a computer program and you have a certain set of rules, the things, I'm just wondering practically, if there are ways to break the rules, then it must have been programmed that way to anticipate that. So let's say the first thing that Neo does here is he does his little walk up the wall. Well, now, in thinking of a computer program, you aren't able to walk up that wall unless someone programs that. Like, so I'm wondering. Right. Well, again, I think there's two ways to look at it here as well. I got one, but you can go.

9:05What's your theory? I just wanted to say that I think this comes back to the rumor. And I believe it's true that they wanted the matrix to be like generated by the human minds, which is why they're in the power plant. And it's not about actual power. It's about being a processor to the matrix and is processing the matrix. And so like, because both of their minds are hooked into that and they're also helping process the program, they can bend it themselves. That's what I was going to say. But at the same time, what if they just, you know, the architect wrote the program and then he had everything functioning and then he just set it to, you know, either he set it to no rules or he just escalated, you know, the parameters to the point where it looks like, you know, the agents are these godlike beings who have no real connection to reality because they can just do whatever they want.

9:55I think, though, anything is possible. Anything is possible. And I'm thinking because the agents, as we can see, they kind of move in impossible ways. So the boundaries are pushed in the necessity of the agents so they can go there. So you can, you know, kind of reason. But is it the programming doing it or is it the agents doing it? Let me have my point. But the agents have to, like, if you have a set of program, right, like, you'd say you have, like, you can't walk up a wall if somebody wrote what it looks like to walk up that wall. You know what I mean? So that's what I'm saying. Like, they could be kind of, like, extended to all these abilities that you're not supposed to do because, you know, the perception of reality.

10:37That comes now back to the question of how is the mind of a human connected to the matrix? And that's the thing we don't know. We don't know exactly how that connection is made and to what degree of manipulation minds have within the matrix. So maybe, I don't know, maybe the matrix is something that we don't know. Maybe it's programmed in such a different way than what we're used to. And maybe there are, maybe something more organic where human minds actually can push the limits. But it's not clear how. That's an interesting thought. If, like, let's say, if it is kind of hosted in the human mind and, you know, it is the human singularity where it actually happens in your mind.

11:20So it's technically kind of like a dream and it just kind of pings the computer to check for the rules. But within your brain, as a dream, anything's actually possible, whatever, you know, your imagination kind of visually puts into you. So then in that case, you just kind of ignore whatever the rules are and your imagination goes wild. And I kind of, that works. Yeah. Instead of someone writing the program for walking up a wall, which, you know, would therefore define something. And therefore he is still within the parameters of the program. They just took a wall and someone knows how to walk. And they decide to put those together and I can walk up a wall now. Yeah. And it's kind of like a sandbox video game. It's like, okay, you sort of like are given this wide area to do your thing.

12:03And whatever outcomes are sort of dictated by your actions rather than your actions are dictated by a certain preset outcome. Yeah. Yeah. What's interesting though is in the matrix is that only people who have been freed actually have the ability to manipulate the matrix. Because they have their mind freed more. But what's interesting is that even if you would believe that you live in the matrix, within the matrix, evidently you wouldn't have the ability to bend. Maybe you do. I don't believe that though. Or would you? I don't believe that. No. Yeah. I think it's absolutely possible. You would probably be flagged, you know, button system. Flagged. True. As an anomaly and you would probably get killed or whatever. Right. That's what it is. But I think it's, you know, I don't think there's any connection.

12:43You just, you know, so then you, your brain can function that way. Man, so does that mean that like people like Bruce Lee would be amazing? Yeah. In the matrix? Yeah. He would like realize he's doing like 30 flips. And then the agents will take him out. Yeah. And the agents are like, that's why he died. Too much Bruce Lee. Exactly. So prematurely. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. Kurt Cobain was too good at creating music. And his son, you know, Brandon Lee. That's right. During The Crow when we were filming that. This explains so much. It was a dynasty that was cut short by the two adept in The Matrix. Yep. There we go. This explains a lot. There we go. Exactly. No one's too good. Shut down. So there's this line that Morpheus says. He bends over and he's like, you think that's air you're breathing now? Guys, I'm sorry. Matrix fart. I never liked that line.

13:25I have not liked that. I don't like this. I don't like it. Why? Because, okay, my thinking here is, yes, it is air because his body is over there and that body is breathing actual air in the real world. Oh, you don't like that? You don't like that? But not in this space. He's not. Yeah. The only thing he's doing is reacting to a set of physical stimuli he's used to having. He could do the same fight without breathing if he wanted to because he is freed from the constraints of the physical being. Well, I always thought that the analogy was the same as when they were in the construct in the chair. The armchairs were there. He touches the armchair and he goes, this isn't real. Right. And Neo says that, right? Yeah. And basically the answer is no, it's not real.

14:06And that's all he's saying here. But I thought that at least, but I thought something as basic as breathing is sort of like synchronized between both bodies, between the real world body and the... In this case, I know. I think it's more of a nod to the audience. But as George is saying, it's probably not the case. And I'm thinking of this too... I think you're thinking of it too much. I think it's more of a reminder to the audience, you know, that this isn't the real world. As much as it's to Neo, I don't know if it's that helpful to Neo as a concept. The thing is, it could be any example. It could be, is this a real tatami mat? Yeah. Do you think that's right? I feel like... I feel this sort of all dictates from his... What he's trying to do with him in this setting anyway.

14:46He's trying to show him that the mind and body are not connected. And the fact that he's right now operating under the limitations of his human body, that's what's holding him back. There we go. Yes. There we go. I like that. And so he's not breathing if he doesn't think he's breathing. So right now, Morpheus could have walked up to him and put his hand over his mouth and his body would think he's suffocating because of the feedback. But if he can breathe himself like, this is not air, this is not, I don't need this, then he would no longer be subjected to that sort of like physical pressure. And then that excites what you're saying. And that could kind of push him on to thinking like, I'm doing all the unnecessary things that I actually need in this world, you know, that can make me go faster and stronger.

15:27He's holding back. He's like, oh, I'm getting tired when he's really not because his body is really not doing anything. Exactly. Exactly. And you guys are making me like this even more now, actually. This is good. You guys were talking about the call to action. And this actually kind of is the call to action of the movie. It's all about overcoming your personal boundaries in order to defeat your opponent. And this is the sort of stuff he's like, just the whole movie is like, you are not this. You are not this physical matter. You are this thing. Yeah. Yeah. It's a little action. This moment literally is the, this is the crux of the movie right here. It's like, if he can do this, then he can succeed. And later on, you see that he does. Nice.

16:07I have a question. Now, there's a line that Mao says in this sequence that I think up until now, again, with me hearing things, I have heard wrong. Now, he goes. Take a look at these neural kinetics. They're way above normal. Yeah. They're way above normal. Okay. So this, what I've heard now, but up until now, I've heard wave a mama. What? About a hundred times. What? Say that again? Wave a mama. And I always, I use this actually. I probably use it in our movies as well because I thought it was a cool line, but I always wondered, what does it mean wave a mama? They're wave a mama. I think that's going to be the title of our episode.

16:50I think so. It means way above normal. Oh. Yeah. I think it was like, you know, like, oh, you know, like, I don't know what it was. Oh my God. Or whatever. You know, like. Yeah. It's like a, like an interjection. Yeah. Like, yeah. Like, ooh mama or something. Yeah. Wave a mama. Wave a mama. Because wave a normal. He kind of like quiets down and kind of, you can't hear it above normal kind of thing. So yeah. Wave a mama. Yeah. It'd be great if Morpheus said that. Then wave a mama. When you reach a wave a mama. So what is, what is, what is this necronomicon? So the neural kinetics, I think he's actually looking, um, he's, uh, he's actually looking at the stats more than he is looking at the screen. Like when they're fighting. Oh, the look at the brain wave activity.

17:30Yeah. Like really, I think it's what it is. It's like how fast the synapses are firing. Yeah. And like the, the, the electrical relays between them. So I think it's probably like, uh, trying to show, like introduce, uh, the character of mouse as he's more interested in the nerdy kind of things. Like looking at the neural kinetics instead of looking at the actual fight that's going on. But I love how it takes. But also he's a big fan boy. Yeah. Well, yeah. Of Neo. Cause I always thought he was just pointing out like, this is the guy. This could be the guy. Yeah. Yeah. Guys, look at the screen. It's Neo. And you know, when we watched this movie for the first time, I was a 12. So, um, uh, when he said stuff like that, it flies over your, your head. It doesn't, you can't understand what he's talking about.

18:11Right. And also sometimes it just factors into that sort of like science mumbo jumbo, like science words here to make it seem more legitimate. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but what I love is a tank sort of putting his hand down, like just kind of like, uh, yeah. Don't touch it. Yeah. I love that too. Yeah. That's great. Leave it alone. Yeah. That's why I love it. Tank is loving this. He's also loving this in the background. Tank is like super excited. He did that. Right here. He's a little loving it too much. Yeah. Yeah. Look at him. Look at her face. But he's, you know, he's the one who put the program. He's like, oh yeah, program. We're good. He knows all this stuff. I put all the right stuff. Dozer's kind of. Switch doesn't care. Dozer doesn't care. They're just like thinking, oh, when is my break? No, they're thinking like, wait, we play cards again.

18:53Where's the catering? No, I'm thinking like an actor. I was like, where's the catering? I'm so hungry. Oh, lunch. Oh, lunch. Well, then it's the actor's names. What are the actor's names, Tim? Pop quiz. I don't know. Philip. I don't know is wrong. Philip knows things. Don't tell me things. I'm not prepared today. I'm not prepared. Do you know the actor's names? Do you know any of the actors? George, what are the names of the actors? Lawrence Fishburne, Kerry Moss. Okay. We're great. We're professionals. Joe Panagliano. And Wo Mama. Elrond. Wave a mama. Wave a mama. Wave a mama, whatever. All right. Anything else in this episode?

19:34What else is going on here in this episode? I love the feed, the little video feed that's going on. Well, let's talk about that for a second because I have things to say. Just one thing. Also, say thanks. Yeah. One thing I wanted to say was that I always liked the video feed as well because later on, jumping the gun here just for a moment. Yeah, that's fine. We'll be back. Cypher says there's way too much code to decode the matrix or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Implying that it's so complicated that there's no way that they have the computing power or the resources to decode parts of the matrix. So you can't see it. So you can't see the actual matrix feed. But what's interesting is this instance of the construct, which is a very localized,

20:15small, sort of neat program, lightweight program. They can obviously decode, but very poorly, as you can see. It's too bad. It just sucks that it has to look so ugly. It's so poor. But which is... But yeah, it's an interesting thing though, Jacob. Because that implies that the matrix was always written to be, you know, what's the word? To, you know, to use through the mind. It was never written to be visually, you know, look through a screen like a... Right. You know, like a render. It all... The code is kind of written to be, you know, like perceptive through the mind.

20:55To be processed by the mind. Yeah. To be processed by the mind. So it's an interesting thing. It wasn't like, you know, evolved from VR or something like that. It's just strictly visual. It's just directly tapping into people's... It was frightful. The thing was like tap into the brain and use all the senses from one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it never was optimized for video unless like that little, you know, crappy attempt here with little divics. I guess that's a good point. But I guess what I liked always whenever I watched it was just to show the grandeur of the matrix and how it's so big and it's so vast that, you know, we can't even like begin to decode it, let alone visualize stuff. And also it's a nice visual representation of how... See, we're watching the fight and it's like, that's pretty cool.

21:37But they're seeing it from like the computer trying to process the image. And because they're moving so fast, like they don't even get the full picture because it's like all they know that it's crazy awesome because it's so... You can't see it anymore. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So the question is really, who's doing the camera angles? Is Tank switching? Yeah. Like a TV editor? Yeah, you can see it on a little keyboard. We just have like a follow option. Yeah. Follow Morpheus. I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. One thing... Fart. Yeah. So you think that's where you're breathing now. Tim, come on. You said you were going to talk about this. Talk about it. I want to talk about it first. Okay. So again, another shot. It is another excuse for me to link the Matrix fart video again.

22:17Are we going to link it again? Yes. Yes. Every time a sequence from the fart, it happened now. Go watch it. What is it, Tim? Because I described it last time. It's your turn. It is a magical video where they edited sound, fart sounds, to a couple of sequence, a couple of scenes from the Matrix, and it fits perfectly. And one of those scenes is when Morpheus bends down and he goes, you think this is air breathing, and he rips one pretty strong, and it's amazing. Does anybody do this little eye looking sideways bit? Yes. Yes. Does anybody do this little eye looking sideways bit? That just happened. Yeah. I was just watching that. I'm like, yep, I can imagine that exactly being right there. And he has another one as well, you know, a little extra cheeky one. Yeah, we watched this when we were kids very often. So that's how it happened.

22:59That's how we were entertained. Mm-hmm. This is the real Matrix. Wow, I don't know what else to say about this. I have nothing else to say about this episode. Great moves. Again, there's no Lunatic Calm. It's gone. Oh, I can say one thing. Yes. Okay, so. Yes, Jacob, say it. There is a part here, which I love, which, okay, first of all, we have neglected to talk a little about the music. So we mentioned how in the last episodes with Patrick, we were talking about the song, which is, again, I always forget the name. Leave you far behind. And by Lunatic Calm. Lunatic Calm. I want to take you on a roller coaster. Excellent sample. Very good. Excellent interpretation. Masterful.

23:39Thank you so much. That is gone here. And we're back to some, I think, no music. And then, post Neo going, oh, the air, I'm tired, and all this stuff. Morpheus goes again. It's a bit of drum roll. Morpheus says, let's do this again. And what's great is Neo refocuses. He learns something new. He's getting a little better. And what I love about this is, first of all, the music is bringing us back into the storyline, right? We're not anymore in this action sequence. We're back into the plot. What's happening here is we're furthering the story of like, okay, now Neo's developing. He's changing. At least a little bit.

24:19It's not crazy, but it's a little bit. And we have these musical swells, right? Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, with the strings. It's bringing us back. And you also have like a very intense, like the Asian cymbal ride. It's almost like the Japanese drums that are driving. It's definitely got that sort of Eastern feel to it as well, while still being like contemporary and very plot driving. Matrix-y. Exactly. And there's a parallel here, a visual parallel, I think, to the last sequence of the movie when Neo reawakens, his rebirth, as the one. And he suddenly realizes completely everything that Morpheus has taught him about freeing

25:05his mind and not being limited by the Matrix. And you can see in his eyes, he's just doing all these moves without even thinking about it because it's not important. The moves aren't important. It's important that he's just doing it. And here they do a sort of precursor to that. You can tell Neo is getting the hang of it. And I like, I don't know how they did that, but their moves in the sequence are just very fluid, elegant, but they're also powerful. Whereas earlier, Morpheus had those qualities. Morpheus was very slow, but quick. That's the difference. Where Neo was fast, maybe physically. Flashy. And flashy, but ultimately he didn't make it. He didn't make it in. He didn't understand why exactly he was.

25:46Very nice. He was executing his moves wrongly. So that is my point on that. Pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum. I think it's great. I think it's a really cool parallel. Because it's subtle. Still on a defense mode. But yeah. I mean, I was getting it. You can see the concentration in his eyes. Yep. And everyone in the room loves it. Everyone in the room is like, oh, it's him. But obviously. It's a great feeling of like, it's that lovely, like slow build progression. Like you don't want to see him just get beat down. You want to see him make a little bit of progress. Exactly. And then, you know, he finally does. Yep. Musically, it's very lovely what you were describing, Jacob. Because basically it's one chord where it kind of keeps getting extended and extended. It keeps going higher and lower as the strings just adding more notes to that chord.

26:27You know, it's going higher, higher. It's just like, it doesn't change the chord progression. It just keeps getting more complex. Yeah. It's building tension. And you're kind of wondering like, oh, like what's happening? You know, you're kind of with the crew going, is he? Is he? Could he be? Could he be? What is he? Could he be the one? Could he be Mr. America? Ah, joy. Join us next time. On The Matrix. Join us next time. Next time. Really quick, if we missed something, Facebook post. You say it. Type your comment. Say, guys, you're terrible. You missed this. Or, guys, you're amazing and the best ever. But you missed this. But you missed the best.

27:07Or you can email us about missing something. Or just if you want to chill out and hang out, ask at TheMatrixMinute.1. And George is here with us. If you want. George, I'm right. Oh, I am so here. I'm really happy to have him here. And you can find George at these amazing places. George, take it away. Just type in the Mogwai Minute to your favorite web browser. Bing, Yahoo, Alta Vista. What about Ask Jeeves? You know, Ask Jeeves. You can ask Jeeves. I'm pretty sure Jeeves knows where we are, too. Exactly. Yeah. We will be up on the platter. DuckDuckGo. If you don't want to be tracked by The Matrix. Exactly. Keep it loose. So, The Mogwai Minute. Go check it out. The Mogwai Minute. M-O-G-W-A-I.

27:49Awesome. Not related to the band. Oh, yeah. There is a band. Although they will pop up. We'll pop up. If you just Google The Mogwai Minute and just look on a web browser, we're like five below Mogwai. That's pretty good. We're like on page eight. It's horrible. Yeah. Yeah. We need to get our stupid website on top of it. Oh, I have a request. Some weird... If anyone out there is listening and you're a Google webmaster, please guide us to the front page of Google. Yeah. It's a call to action. Yes. Because there's a matrixminute.com that's just up front there. Everything else is good. It's just our website. Who's that? If you guys are out there, the matrixminute.com, not .1. Impostors. Who are they? Because I don't know. Yeah. You guys just...

28:29It's just there. The website is just forwarded to us. Please. Yes, please. Thank you. Thank you. Seriously. Because our Facebook is up there and everything else, except iTunes is up there, except the website, the most important part. It's just buried. Anyway, thank you, George. We have some updates on our... Oh, Tim, you want to say something? Yeah. We have updates on our website. Now, when you go to about page and you have a look at all the guests, you can click on the minutes and it will show you all the minutes where that guest is. So that is wonderful. Yeah, exactly. If you have a specific taste. Yeah. Let's say for George, if you want to see all George's episodes, it'll be up there. The episodes will be up there. You can find all our guests. It's the archives of all our guests. That's so much more developed than my website, which is not done at all.

29:10So there you go. Well... Well... I've done an entire movie. My website is absolute crap. I think it's... Well, it took us 50 minutes to go here. Yes, exactly. And I think the most important is, in the end, just the show and not the... Yeah. You know, how to get to the show. Yeah. I keep telling myself that. That's good. You should because I think that is true. I feel like it's justified not working on the website. See, it works out. It works out on the end for everyone. All right. Well, thank you, everybody. Yeah, there's also some updates we put on the website. It's a little easier to see also who's guesting. And we updated some graphics. Some knickknacks. Exactly. Okay. Thanks, everyone, for listening. We appreciate all of you listeners, for real. And thank you for joining us on this adventure of The Matrix.

29:51Thank you, George, for joining us. Thank you, Phil. Thank you, Tim. You're welcome. You're welcome. It's like we're ending forever. George, we're looking forward to your Friday. Yep. We'll catch you Friday. Friday, Friday. So... Oh, God. I'll go ahead. Please don't die until Friday. I'll try not to. See you Friday, everyone. Thank you. Bye. I'll stay in my bubble. Yay. Yay. Dominic Dominic Dominic