Minute 18: “You help your landlady carry out her garbage.”
Agent Smith looks through Neo’s criminal records.
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0:00Welcome to the Matrix Minute, a podcast where we discuss the first film one Matrix Minute at a time. I am Phil, and I once debated getting a Matrix Code t-shirt at the strip mall in 2003, but when I decided, two weeks later, they were all gone. A Matrix Code t-shirt? Yeah, it was like I had codes of the Matrix, and I saw it at the strip mall, gone. After a week, but then I was contemplating it for a week, so there you go. Should I get the Matrix thing? Did everyone see a Matrix? It's a big thing with me. Oh, I'm Tim. Jacob's not here, because... Yes, he is. I thought you were going to say, we discuss one Matrix at a time. Yeah, that was mine. We discuss one Matrix Minute at a time. Oh, by the way, once... Do you guys know...
0:41Remember the game Max Payne? Of course. There was a... Which had a sweet, sweet, sweet bullet-time. Shh. Philip. Philip. Philip's bored. Oh, there he is. There it is. There it is. Max Payne is an awesome game. Play it if you can. But there was a mod for Matrix... For Max Payne 1. The lobby mod, right? The Matrix lobby scene, yes. I played that for months and months and months. It's just a shootout scene, and you just shoot people, and then you go to the elevator. That's it. It was amazing. Oh, since we're here, I have also the trivia. I used to play Counter-Strike on Steam when I was small. And there was a game, a mod of Counter-Strike.
1:21Or no, a mod of Half-Life? Or no, a mod of Counter-Strike. I can't remember. Online, it was called The Specialists. Oh, yeah! It was basically, they really wanted to do like a Matrix sort of mod. And there was the whole lobby. Yeah. And it was actually really interesting. That mod was cool, because you could play in first or third person. And what you could do is do bullet-time. And you would think, how do they do a bullet-time for a multiplayer server, right? Right. It would localize the bullet-time sort of like a bubble. You wouldn't see the invisible bubble. But imagine like, you do a bullet-time thing, and if someone's in the vicinity, they're also slow-mo. Oh! Oh, okay. Like you slow-down people around you. So the funny thing was, you would see people around going in slow motion. Like, oh.
2:01Oh, you're like. But it's actually pretty, it was fun. It was really fun. Good old early 2000s stuff. So what happens in this minute is, Agent Smith sits at the table opposite to Neo and is looking through his records. He tells Mr. Anderson that they've had an eye on him for quite a while, and that he has two lives. The minute ends as Smith tells him his second life is lived in computers. And that's where the minute ends. Cool. And you help your landlady carry out her garbage. This is one of my favorite scenes in the movie. Well, the somber tone is very nice compared to all the other stuff. Because we get a break from all the action.
2:42Oh, we're live now? Yeah, yeah. And there's no music. And we get a crepe, crate. A crepe? We get a bunch of crepes. Matrix crepes. Tasty. You know, like green. Better not be the ones from the Merovingian. You know, like a spinach. Yes, you don't want a crepe from Merovingian. A crepegasm. And I like Hugo Weaving's performance. Oh, yes. Fantastic. And if you watch the movie again after a while, his accent is very strange. And it is very similar to what we talked about earlier. This sort of transatlantic Carl Sagan. Did you guys watch some Carl Sagan? Yes, we did. Carl Sagan. Very, very similar. Isn't it strange?
3:22Very strange. Very strange. And also, like Lawrence Fishburne mentioned, it was also kind of like Walter Cronkite. Yeah? Okay. Okay. But also, there's also elements of the Wachowskis in there, their manner of speaking. That's what I said. Back when they were the brothers. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys, when you... I was watching some behind the scenes and I forgot how weird they were talking. They were like... Like a little word. Stuff like that. So anyway, the hero in this one is the big green binder. Yes. The database. Some juicy deets. So I did some research and I was trying to find the prop for it. I wonder if someone scanned it.
4:03I was looking for information. I wanted to read the entire text from that first page. And thankfully, the internet provided that. Ooh. Good old internet. Apparently, it was an accurate recreation of the binder. It wasn't the actual prop, but it was someone who actually made a replica. Well, there's tons of stuff in there, I'm sure. There's tons of stuff, but the only stuff that's on camera are two pages. Yes, on camera, yeah. So that first page is like 80% visible and readable. And I have a transcript of the entire thing. So if you want to delve into Thomas Anderson's criminal history... What is it? Give us some highlights. What is the document? Give us the hits. So the first page says, database record, security clearance, factor seven.
4:44But let's sum it up. Like, what is the document? 3-8-0-9-9-4-0-T-A-A. No, no, no. Sum it up. Okay. Personal details. Name. Okay. Thomas A. Anderson. Still no... No. Still no reveal. No middle name. But Thomas, is he doubting Thomas? Possibly. Doubts of Christ's resurrection? Doubts of Jesus the Messiah? So he's Thomas and Jesus at the same time. Oh, wow. And then Anderson. But listen, doubts himself. You know the last name Anderson, right? Yes. Anderson, old English slash Scottish name, meaning son of Andrew. And Andrew is derived from Andreas, which is Andreas, which is Greek, which just means son of man. Man. So there you go.
5:26There you go. Son of man. Mr. Anderson. Now, his date of birth, 11th of March, 1962. Oh, gotta get the calculator out there. Okay, ready? 1962? So this takes place in 1998. Okay. So, what's the birth year? 11th of March. 1962. But we're gonna have... Whoa! 36! We're gonna have a controversy later on. There you go. You see? There's gonna be a controversy later on and a contradiction. Really? Yeah, in a few. So the place of birth. Are you ready for this? Yes. California. Lower downtown. Capital city. F-U-U-S-A. See? See? America is in this. That's the weirdest thing to me.
6:06But no, but capital city is... It's made up. It's made up for this. It's capital city. That's what they call it. It's the mega city. But they don't call it mega city. Wait, but so Americans only live in the Matrix. What about the Europeans? I don't know. Okay, here's the... Okay. I was thinking about this today. No, there's more cities. Remember Animatrixes? I was thinking about this today. Yeah, the Animatrix has like a Japanese section. I was thinking about this and I think our theory is totally stupid that there's only one city in the Matrix. Well, that's the only thing that's like shown. And I think it's stupid because why would the machines do that when it's just like, why would you stuff six billion people in a city? I don't know. I think it's dumb. I mean, if you want to look at like... For me, the Matrix is a replica of just the world as it was at the end of the 20th century.
6:46And that's it. Yeah. There could be differences like capital cities, new or whatever. I think the idea is like you need a city for the people to have jobs and have like really, really busy lives. So they don't like sit on the fields, look at the stars and go, life is not real. You know, this is, you know, the classic cliche. Oh, we're looking at modern life. So then I guess it could be... You can't see a reality in front of your eyes because you're too busy choosing your television sets and eating oatmeal or tuna fish. Maybe everyone's like, what is this? Their heads are too far on the ground focusing on their work to know about the bigger picture. Big city. Sinful metropolis.
7:27Okay, Amish Tim. Hmm. I didn't think about that. That could be the case. I don't know. I don't care. Whatever. Yeah, but there's no... I don't know if the Ardia Animatrix is canon. I mean... Yeah, sure, why not? You know... But then again, Animatrix had a lot of artistic liberties in there. True. There's no canons in here. So, come on. What else is there? What else is there? So that's Lower Downtown Capital City, FU USA. Awesome. Yeah, what is FU? Mother's maiden name. Huh? Michelle McGahee. Or McGahee. I think it's McGahee. I don't know. But that's... Isn't it like... I don't know. So his mom's name is Michelle McGahee. Cool. Named after the art director. So that's actually the art director of the movie. He was designed.
8:08And father's name? John Anderson. Ooh, nice. John. And that's about it. It says marital status. Single. Single. Obviously. Educational record. Schools attended. See? I think I got this. Central West Junior High. And Owen Patterson High School. Okay, so you just go to the... Owen Patterson High School. Which is Owen Patterson is the goateed production designer. Yeah. He's the guy with the little goatee. That's great. I have another theory. I think Thomas's dad, John Anderson, I think he changed his name after he was done with the army. He was previously known as John Matrix. Ah! Ha ha ha ha! Perfect.
8:49Thank you. Thank you very much. That's where he gets his... Okay, guys, I have a big question. Are you ready? No, the machine changed his name. They were looking at John Matrix. Well, that's really close to ours, I think. We have to rewrite the code. It's John Anderson now. I know what he's talking about, right? What? Yeah, of course. John Matrix. Commando. One of my favorite movies. Okay, good. I love Commando. My question is, I always wondered, right, in the Matrix, how do babies work? They just take a genetic sample from the tube. Okay, and then they go make a new baby. They go make a new baby based on the two combinations. But here's the thing. If... That sounds like a lot of work. The machines have to look. Yeah. Like, they look, oh, they're having sex.
9:29Yeah. Quickly, go, like, take out the seeds, you know? There's machine bots that are going, they're having sex over there. They have to. Come on. It has to be in the machine's record that, obviously, conception happened. Yes. For them to be able to go, oh, we have a new baby to make. Yeah. Well, there's a lot of machines. I mean, do they really have to take out the sample at the time? Or is it like they have, like, a... I don't think they have to take a sperm sample. Because they're not going to be putting the... They're not going to put the... Oh, they're designing the baby. They're not putting it in the womb. What if it's just... What if they don't even care about the genetics? Because they're going to change the genetics software based. So what? So you're saying... So in the real world... But then your babies will be black if you're both white. Because residual self-image. So much for residual self-image. Yeah, they have to do this residual self-image. Because, like, yeah, Neo looks like himself.
10:10So it wouldn't be like... You're coming. I'm a woman? But if you think about it, it's very complicated. This is very complicated when it comes to babies. Because the machines do a ton of work. Yeah, but there's those machines that are dedicated. You know those little spiders? Maybe those little sperm spiders are doing things. Those little white ones? Spermy spiders. The little white ones. Yeah, they probably take care of that stuff. They're going on and looking for the... But I think... But you don't have to take out the sperm as well. I think you just have to take out a genetic piece of their data. And that's very easy. Yeah, just like cloning. Okay, okay. Because the babies... Well, yeah, I think so. Because they don't actually put the babies in the wombs. I think it's just... No, they don't. They have their little... You know, probably like some kind of... The incubator stuff they have. And they just take... Oh, they had sex? Okay, take his DNA. Take his DNA. But it is weird because they have to...
10:51The machines have to be careful to sync it up. You know, so this woman looks pregnant in the matrix. And when something happens to the baby... Oh, they just have a program where it's like, Okay, she's pregnant now? She's pregnant in the matrix. So if she got out of the matrix while she was pregnant, She'd be like, Why am I not pregnant? Yes, exactly. Where's my baby? Oh, that would be so sad. Where's the Animatrix? Yeah, where's the matrix comics for that? I guess in the end it wouldn't be too difficult then, I suppose. No, it's fine. Everything's good. It sorts itself out. So on the record... Let's go back to the record page. Because on the record page it says, Anderson excelled in the sciences, mathematics, and computer courses. He also displayed an aptitude for literature and history. Although he had disciplinary troubles when he was 13 to 14 years old,
11:35Anderson went on to become a respected member of the school community through his involvement in football and the all-time Canadian sport of hockey. Ah, there you go. That's why he's fit. He's a sportsman. Yeah. Sometime during his junior year, he has started excelling in his computer courses, surpassing all students in his class and rivaling his instructors. Anderson then started the computer club and during his senior year began to hack into the school's database. They hacked into the school's D-base. The old D-base. And this is where his troubles began. And he was disciplined several times during his senior term. And that's about most of what it says on the paper. The bio. Now, we can look at his passport
12:16because Agent Smith starts flipping through another thing and there's his passport. And this is where the other... Oh, the skill scan, right? Yeah, there's another little controversy thing happening as well. Well, we said 36 was based on the year. Yes. His age. Yeah, he was born in 62, I think it was. But on the passport, if you want to see it, it says, Anderson Thomas A., date of birth, on his passport, 13th of September, 71. 71. 71 sounds, I think, more plausible. So, is this maybe him hacking into the... Yeah. He's changing his date of birth. He's 27. 27 in the passport. Yeah, so, I mean,
12:56you make of that with what you will. Why would you think he would hack these things? So, which one's the truth? Like, his passport might be the one that he falsified. Why would he falsify it? Because he's a hacker. No, he would falsify the other thing. Oh, the other thing. I'm asking why. For what benefit. I told you, ultra porn. For the lulls. I don't know. Yeah. He was born in Capital City. I don't know. For the... So, his passport was... Oh, you mean like before, when he was younger or something. Yeah. Oh, okay. His passport was initiated 12th of September, 1991. Okay. You see? So, yeah. Now comes the big one. Now comes the big one. Are you ready? Yeah, I know this one. You know, the passport date of expiration? 11th of September, 2001. That's weird. Oh.
13:36Dun, dun, dun. Coincidence. Oh, you think it's... Yeah, da, da, da, da. And, yeah. Passport agency, Capital City. Capital City. Back to Capital City. Interesting. So, the age thing is weird. So, we don't know at all. So, basically, we just... He's between 27 and 36. Yep. Which gives us no information at all. Doesn't help us. But that's about it. There's also... I was looking at the props and... Some props circulating was like... Neo's ID lanyard. Uh-huh. Which I don't think is real. Oh, from Metacortex. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if that's real. Look at the picture. It looks stupid there. It looks like an older Neo. Anyway.
14:17Yeah, that's about it. Talk about the scene a bit, maybe. All we can say is that, you know, Agent Smith is telling him stuff and we can talk about Hugo Weaving if you want or we can do it next time. There's also the photo of computers which I never understood. There's just like a random... A bunch of random computers. Yeah, that's so funny. That's his school hacking days. Yeah, that's his school. He put it all together to make a massive LAN party. Yeah. Yeah. Playing Doom. Playing Doom. And... I guess we can talk about... Smithy here. Yeah. He's played by... What? No. I just like the... Something that I've never noticed but I experienced the sort of same vibe, you know, back in the school
14:59when you get in trouble. Oh, yeah. Doing stuff. And I just... Principal's office. I didn't feel that before except now we were watching a little minute and just like it... You know, like sort of the emotion that Neo here is doing. It's a mix between like, oh, you know, it sucks and then the other one is like, I don't care. Yeah. Yeah. Evil person who has powers. Yeah. I'll just, you know, F you from Capital City. Exactly. My hometown. My hometown. Yeah. Well, he's played by Hugo Weaving. I think we all love Hugo. The wonderful English-Australian actor. He was born in 1960. Guess where he was born? Capital City.
15:40Capital City. That's right. In Australia. He was born in Ibarra in Nigeria. No way. Yeah. But he's still British and Australian. Started in 1984. You know, he did a TV show called Body Line about English cricket captain called Douglas Jardine. And I was watching some of those clips just yesterday. They're pretty funny. It's fun seeing a really young Hugo Weaving from 1984. He did a bunch of smaller roles with other Australian actors. Now, this is where the connections of all these Australian actors doing Australian things together. All the Australian things together. Like Nicole Kidman in a TV show called Bangkok Hilton, which is from 1989.
16:20And yeah, he has wonderful wavy hair in that one. It's very, very, very romantic. And then he made a movie called Proof in 1991, which is with Russell Crowe, where he plays a blind guy. And I watched the trailer to that yesterday. And I just have to say, it's very funny because it's like, who do you trust? Do you trust your friend? You know, to be your best friend, even though you're blind? You know, and then there's this woman that comes between them. And Russell Crowe's in it. It's such a low budget. Is Russell Crowe also blind? No, no, he's not. But you can see where this movie goes. And so from there, he gets more roles. And then he got to be in a movie called
17:01The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert. I don't know if Tim knows about this, but this is where he plays a drag queen. No, that doesn't. He plays a crossdresser. Oh, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw the images of that. Yes, in a troupe. And it also has Guy Pearce in it because he's also an Australian actor. And it looks pretty funny in my opinion. It looks quite fun. And if you want to see Agent Smith doing really crazy things, wearing drag, I think that'd be great to see. And we talked about Babe, obviously, where he plays Rex the dog. And then after that, Matrix, and after Matrix, you know, Elrond and Lord of the Rings. Lord of the Rings. I was going to say, 98. They were shooting Lord of the Rings, 99.
17:41Nine. And then 2000. So, this was 98, Matrix. Right after Matrix, he popped on over to New Zealand. Yeah, to New Zealand. Put on a wig. Put on a wig and play Elrond. You shall be the Fellowship of the Ring. It's funny, I remember watching Fellowship of the Ring the first time and I was like, oh, there's a Smith. Why doesn't he talk weird? Acting. You know, my child, child of my friends. Frodo. Acting. Acting. So, then he was V in V for Vendetta. Seems you're the ring bearer. Another. Who? V for Vendetta. He was V. The man with the mask.
18:23What's his name? Guy Pius? No, what is it? Guy Fox. Yeah, the Guy Fox mask. I liked the comic better than the movie. Yeah, I think everybody kind of agrees that the comic was better than the movie. But then again, he was, you know, this was another Wachowski production. Yeah. But it wasn't directed by the Wachowskis. And then he also voiced Megatron in the first two Transformers films. But that's funny because he said he never met Michael Bay in person. I have a quote and it's funny. Director Michael Bay talks to me on the phone. I've never met him. We were doing the voice for the second one and I still hadn't seen the first one. I still didn't really know who the characters were and I didn't know what anything was. It's a voice job for sure but, and people assume I spent my life working on it but I really don't know, I really don't know
19:03much about it. It was a show how invested Mr. Director was. And then he was in The Wolfman and then he was in a bunch of movies with Cate Blanchett and Red Skull like Tim said. Yeah, remember? He was the guy who was the wolfman. Remember that? Yes, the policeman. Yes. Yes. Yeah, we loved it. That was our highlight when we were watching The Wolfman, Jacob. Oh, wow. Yeah. And in 2004 he became an ambassador for Voiceless which is an Australian animal rights organization. Oh. Yeah. Nice one. And there you go. That's Hugo Weaving in a nutshell, really. Yeah. That's everything. I think we'll see. Has he been living two lives or one? That's Hugo. Hugo in a nutshell. Yogi. All right. So. I think we should save for the next minute we'll talk about
19:44we'll talk about Smithy. We're talking about Hugo. Ah, yes. And Anderson. We need to talk about Smithy. We're talking about Smithy because Smithy is an interesting character. Look at him. Look at his mannerisms. Especially in the next minute. We'll see what he's saying. But so he's just explaining to Neo in this movie this minute In this movie in this minute like what he's what he's been how much of an eye they've had on him. That's correct, Philip. I love when he unwinds that little Yeah. rope. His timing is so good too like for everything that he does. And his little hand gestures. And you and he's so clean and pristine. Hope your landlady carry out her garbage.
20:25Cool. And his little face of disgust as he said goes a little yep. Yep. This is bad. And that's about all that happens in this minute to be honest. I also love I never mentioned this before but I love those tie clips that I didn't swear. I mean tie clips are great they keep the tie secure that don't don't in his place. Okie dokie thanks you can catch me on Twitter catch me on Twitter at Phil Dragush at Tim O'Mayerski iTunes Facebook all that stuff. Please do that because I'd really like to see some especially if you'd like some feedback and reviews and go on the Facebook at The Matrix Minute. A comment or two
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