Revolutions Minute 106: “For Zion!”
Zion is finally breached by the Sentinels. The battle between the humans and the machines begins…
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0:00The Matrix Revolutions Minute, a podcast where we discuss the Matrix trilogy one minute at a time, because who knew? We just love this stuff. Hi, I'm Jake, as usual. Hey, Jake, how's it going? How's it going? Yeah, we love it so much. Oh, I'm Tim. Yeah. Well, welcome. It's another Wednesday. Yep. And, uh, I mean... Spring is here. There's a lot of guns and fighting right now. Yeah? Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. But before we talk about the guns and the fighting and the Sentinels and Mifune, you remember Mifune? It's so funny. Mifune has been a lot in this movie so far.
0:41I think I had a bit too much of Mifune in this movie. I think there's been too much of everyone, if you think about it. There's a lot of everybody. How many minutes has it been? Do you guys remember when we were doing Matrix 1? Can you believe? Yeah. Oh, God. Yeah, remember that episode where my wife was on there? I was like... Yeah. Don't talk about your wife. I'm sorry, man. Yeah, I know. I know. Let's not talk about that. When was it? That was like... That was back in like... That was like late March. 2018. Yeah. Something, something. Yeah. Wow. Remember when we thought, you know, 2020, you know, things are going to change.
1:22Yeah. And do you remember... We didn't even think we were going to do the other movies. No, because we were so adamant. Remember back then, when we were doing the first movie, we were like... I remember at the beginning, we were like, no second and third. We were like, no way. And we were like, no one... Like, we'll have someone else do it. Remember that? Yeah. We're like, we'll have someone else take charge. We'll have the cool guys who just did the first one. And I remember after we finished the first one. Something happened. The Wachowskis, you know, reached out to us, as you all know. And they offered us... We had a really good... Like, they were... I think they were... I was actually really surprised because... Like, remember how we always thought that the... We always talked about how they're like reclusive and they don't want to do interviews and stuff like that. They don't want to look at online and nothing. And then remember when...
2:02Remember when I... Guys, remember when I messaged you? Yeah. I actually didn't message you. Like a FaceTime call with you guys. Yeah. I didn't believe what you were saying. It was impossible. And I remember I said... I checked our inbox. Yeah. Ask at the MatrixMint.1. Mm-hmm. And... That reminds me. Remember when... I remember it was them. Holy crap. I remember it was them. It was not only... Yeah, it was them. That was amazing. But then... You remember how you said, guys, if you're Keanu Reeves, just... But you remember the email? Just email. Yeah, yeah. Remember the email from Wachowskis? I think that's what they responded to. Yeah. Remember they just said... Remember that? Like, I showed you guys and said, it's us, period. That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty crazy. Showed it to... Yeah.
2:43Yeah. And then we talked about this so the audience knows. But, you know, when they said that they'll give us $5,000 each, if we manage to finish, you know, the entire series. I mean, at this point, I don't think it's worth it. But remember, though, remember, that's true. At this point? That's true. But I think, though... In 2020. But at the same time, though, remember how they were actually saying how they wanted to clarify all their views and stuff like that on The Matrix? Because remember before... Yeah. But it's true. Remember before... We were in the dark. Remember before 2019, when they were on our podcast? Yeah. That we were always like... And everyone knew, like, they don't talk about their views. They keep it low down and stuff like that. And it's funny how, like, after all that time, even they couldn't keep it anymore that way.
3:23They had to, like, come out. And they even... Remember on the podcast, they talked about, they said that, like, they just feel like it's so behind them that they don't even want to keep it up, the whole mystery. So remember that time? Yeah. I mean, like, at one point, you have to change, you know? Yeah, exactly. I think they got to that point in their careers. And I think that they also remember talking about how... I remember we mentioned, like, we mentioned how on our first podcast, we talked about, like, the five ones and stuff like that. Yeah. And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, just flat out admitted the whole thing. Yeah. And they said it's part of the canon. So... It's really too bad that... It's an interesting view that happened. And I have to say, like, you know, it's too bad Lily had to die like that. Yeah. I know.
4:04Yeah. But I'm really glad that they, you know, were on our podcast before. Yeah. Yeah. Before the tragic event of, you know, the moon colliding, which we all know, you know, was a tragic event to all of us. Isn't it amazing how we actually still keep podcasting? Well, that's the funny thing I was thinking about the other day. Like, after the moon collision of 2019, I always thought, like, you know, life won't... Like, you know how when stuff like that happens, you think, like, you won't be able to go on normally? Yeah. And then you realize that you still go on. And it's funny. And it's funny. And it's amazing that we never... We never missed a podcast episode. I know. It's crazy. You think it's going to be hard. I'm sorry. It's just still too near.
4:45I know, man. It's too fast. Well, remember when half the Earth got... And it's weird because it didn't affect us because it was mostly, like, Asia and stuff. Yeah. Isn't that weird? Yeah. And, like... Yeah, Lily was promoting her new movie, Le Lai. Like, the timing is horrible. And think about also, like... You know, it's sad also because remember we used to talk about, like, back in the day, like, in the first podcast, we talked about how The Matrix was shot in Australia. And now Australia's gone. Yeah. It's completely, like, the moon is just lodged in there. Yeah, the Matrix exhibition will never be shown. Although those things are lost. It's sad. You know, and our friend Courtney Coulson. Yeah. Well, no, Courtney... Remember, Courtney was on vacation. Oh, yeah. Vacation in Slovenia, apparently.
5:27Yeah. And I actually... That's the thing I remember because I was on, you know, Facebook. And I remember there was the statuses. You remember how they updated that thing where, like... Oh, they did. Yeah. You know, they updated Facebook where it scans your eyes through the retinal sensors, you know, the new MacBooks and stuff. Yeah. It's great. I mean, they did that a long time. Like, the technology right now is amazing. I mean, we didn't talk about the minute yet, but something really reminded me because as we're watching these mechs shooting, it reminded me of a funny story. Yesterday, as I was waiting for the transcontinental teleport, I was going to... They call it New Babylon, but, like, for people who are not up to news, it's basically just
6:13in Brazil. Yeah, yeah, of course. It's a new town. It's a new town. I don't know what it's called. Maybe because the other half of the earth has got demolished. I know. They're called New Babylon. I heard a lot, like, people usually say NBP. But, you know, like, the good news is... Yeah. I mean... Yeah, NBB. I've heard that one as well. So, I was waiting for that, and I was really tired, you know... But, you know, the good news... I'm sorry, I just wanted to mention, like, I don't know if you know this, but the good news is that global warming is at an all-time low. Yeah, well, remember that time when Elon Musk, when he actually went to Mars, and he came back, and he... Like, remember that thing? I don't remember what it was called. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think his famous words were... He had the crystal in his hand, and he's like, Mars sucks, let's go to Neptune.
6:54I think, like, that was one of his famous words? No, remember when he brought the crystals back. It's weird because, like, the story is disputed, like... It's really weird, but remember he brought the crystals back, and remember that was the point where Tesla finally surpassed sales of traditional gasoline cars, and I think... I know, like, the conspiracy about him connected with the moon and it colliding with the Earth, it's like, you know, it's hard to talk about it these days, but, you know... It's weird because, like, I think that we don't yet have concrete evidence, but the truth is that whatever happened then definitely, like, expedited all the stuff that we use, and it's weird because, like... It's true, true. I think it's like, you know, like, you typically look at the industrial revolution and stuff like that, everything was going exponentially, and it's strange, like, even just a couple
7:36of years ago, we were like, oh, this is the best, we're doing so well. And it's like, if you compare it to now, after the Musk event... It's totally... I would never imagine we would have 4K audio format. Like, who would ever dream of that? Like, people listening to this in 4K, and then probably... By the way, this is not an announcement, but we're really looking into 8K MP3s. Yeah. Just for you listeners. I mean, of course. It's just, like, the natural development. Do you guys remember, though, when we released, like, the episodes of, like, 128 kilobits and something like that? It's funny. I remember back then when we were thinking, like, oh, man, different internet speeds around the world, and then, like, remember... Was it... The crystals changed everything. Yeah. And then, basically, what happened is that they realized that the internet runs... Doesn't have to run in the traditional way.
8:17And it's so funny, because, like, you think that those things don't happen, but there's always discoveries. By the way, do you guys remember before the moon collision? Yeah. Or no, after the moon collision? Do you remember when they were having those... It's still really fresh in everybody's minds. By the way, I was reading online... Not online. On the crystals... Crystal net. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yesterday, that they're really... I think they're trying to change the calendar. You know... Yeah. I've heard about this. Before the collision? Yeah. So, BTC and after the collision, ATC. That's such a... I mean, that's a huge event. What do you guys think about that? I think they might put in a global vote, but I don't know. What do you guys think? Well, now that politics is connected by the bilateral commission, I think that...
8:59I think a global vote would probably make the most sense, honestly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because, you know... I mean, I would... Yeah. Because remember back when, like, countries were, like, autonomous, and now it's more interconnected. I think it makes sense to have a global vote. But what I wanted to say really quick before that is that when the moon collision happened, do you remember that time when there were debates online? You remember Trump? No one remembers him much anymore. Yeah. I remember that. Remember that one time when he got impeached? Yeah. Do you remember that? Like, you know, now that we have, like, the third Antichrist, you know, leading... Yeah, Antichrist. I'm a very Antichrist guy when it comes to peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Are you voting Antichrist? Okay. Yeah. But listen, guys, before you get to the Antichrist, because I know it's also, like, weird and
9:41we don't have all the answers, but I wanted to say really quick was that the time when the moon collision happened, when they were debating whether to call Earth Earth. Remember that? Yeah. And they were like, is it Earth? Is it Earth? Is it Moon? What is it? Yeah. Do we call it... They had some horrible names. Remember that on the voting? Mirth. Yeah. Mirth. Yeah. Mirth is not... I don't know. I think... I personally think that we should keep calling it Earth, but then again, you know, there's people who say that's, you know, sort of like... Racist in a way. Yeah, prejudice and stuff like that. I mean, at least the flat earthers were proven wrong. That's true. That's true. But they still think it's the thing. They're gone. Yeah. Some people actually vote for... Are voting for... Not voting for, but kind of like wanting Moon slash Earth.
10:23That's stupid. No? No, I'd be kidding. Then that... Like, you know, why was Moon first, you know? That's true. Earth slash Moon. Why did I always go with that? You know, like, why not Earth slash Moon, you know? Yeah, I know. Yeah. Who knows? I mean, like... So, tell us, Phil, what happens in this minute? We got off again on a tangent. It's funny, because, like, we always thought that, like, when we wanted to do the second and third films... I remember we had this discussion on Facebook. How we were saying, like, you know, we did a new poll... Last year, 2019? Oh, for all new listeners, Crystal Book used to be called Facebook. Yeah, yeah. That was before it switched over. To the Musk.
11:04Yeah, before the Musk event. It's just so surreal, like, thinking about all that stuff that happened, like, in just the past couple of years. Like, I don't know. It's really weird. But anyway, we had that poll where we said we were going to do everything, like, really old school. Because remember, everyone said that they liked the originals better, the Matrix. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And people were saying how, like, when we got towards the end, we were getting stupider and making all these tangents and stuff like that. Yeah. But it's weird because, like, we still do it, like, now. It's hard. Like, every time we reset for a new movie, you know, we still have to do the prequels they did. We still even didn't get to that, you know? They came out last year. Oh, the Matrix prequels. Yeah. I mean, like... I don't know if we're going to do them, you know? This is common knowledge, so no one's going to... Yeah.
11:44I mean, I don't know if we're going to do them, you know? Because we've already done this, and I'm so tired. I don't know if... You know, because... I don't know. I mean, I don't know if, like... Honestly, for me, I could just go on, honestly. Because, I mean, it was directed by Lily's Ghost, and I don't... I think you mean... Well, they call her Lily's Ghost, but really what you're saying is Lily's AI transplant. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, technically it's her... I mean, it's pretty cool. Like, it just gets... We're getting to more and more in the Matrix. Yeah, well, it's cool. I don't know these fancy new terms. I see a ghost, I call it a ghost, you know? Yeah, yeah. But anyway, so this minute... Call him like a savior. We're on minute 106. Yes. Matrix Revolutions. Yeah.
12:24And what happens in this minute? Yeah, tell us, Fulv. Well, I'll tell you what happens in Matrix Revolutions, minute 106. Mifune looks up, staring into the black hole of the ceiling. And the APUs all start to look up and just put their machine guns up there. And then the Sentinels go down and then they roar. Well, Fulv, you're really prepared for this. Yeah. You're really prepared for this. Yeah. And then they start shooting. Super well. They start shooting and shooting. And he goes, Roar! And he goes, Reload! And that's about it. Yeah. He's referencing Matrix Rev Reloading. Yeah. It's not really an event for me. As everyone knows, we're in the hole, the black hole of the fight for Zion.
13:07The anus of the fight of the Zion. We're stuck in this and we kind of have to get through it, you know? So kind of bear with us. Yeah. I think there's really not much to talk about in this minute. I mean, we all agreed that in the Revolutions, I think our least favorite part is the shooting. The shooting in when they come to Zion. Yeah. And the mechs or whatever they're called. Apoos. Yeah. Yeah. And it's, you know, it doesn't really, you know, we had moons collide with us and all sorts of craziness, but it's still not relatable. I just don't, these mechs shooting up at Sky. We had, you know, you know that we had, Tim, I don't think you're, you're really giving people credit
13:53because like, I know there's people who know this, but like two years ago, two years ago, but two years ago, the, the AI school shooting that happened in West, West Kentucky, the, you know, Kentucky primaries. Yeah. And isn't it crazy? Like I was thinking about it the other day. It's like, after all that happened, remember in 2018, nothing changed. And now it's even in the AI. Yeah. Robots are coming, revolting. And people are still saying like, no, it's fine. Yeah. Yeah. And people are so blind to it. I mean, I had an AI come and kick me in the ass the other night when I was going to the bar to drink my sorrows in a way.
14:36And I reported to police and they're like, you know, that doesn't happen. That's not real. I mean, open your eyes. Look at, watch the matrix. It's so relevant. The weird thing is, okay, guys, I know we don't talk about this much and it's a bit of a serious and controversial topic, but what do you guys think of AI? I have a couple of AI friends actually. Mm-hmm. You feel a bit prejudiced sometimes, right? It's, it's weird. I mean, cause it's like, you know, like we talk about stuff and it's really like hanging out with another human, you know, like. Yeah. Except, except their responses are so fast. Yeah. Like. That's my problem because you always tell them a story and they just hook up to the net. Yeah. And I, I sometimes tell them. No, because like they always top you, you know, like. Yeah. I, I, I'm not a machine.
15:17I don't have the entire Google inside me. Yeah. And the things. They do. And like I talked to. And they're like, oh, remember about, you know, that guy and there. And the man collisions. Yeah. Yeah. I was talking to Rick, my AI friend. And honestly, the weird thing is that like, I had to talk to him a couple of times and it's really difficult. And I said like, hey man, like, I can't keep up with you. Like I'm, I'm organic matter. I need time to process stuff like that. And the weird thing is that I should understand that. Well, that's the weird thing is like, I told him that he's like, I don't really understand what you're saying. He's like, I don't. And then he doesn't understand. He knows, you know, what, what, you know, X minus a squared of a root of a thousand is. And also, I'm sorry, guys. But when they tell him how you feel, he's like, just like.
15:58By the way, by the way, for any AI listeners, I was going to say the same thing. I was going to say like, it's a little derogatory to be calling them AI. I mean, that's like a new thing. Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, you know, artificial person would be a better. Yeah, I know. I know, I know. So we're not trying to, I mean, look, look, but I think we all have to admit that like, we have nothing against AI. And you know, particularly. Nothing, nothing. Particularly the hyper, the hyperdyne systems ones are a little twitchy and they get a little angry. I know, but Philip, what if someone who has a hyperdyne system is listening? I think that's. I'm sorry. I'm really sorry. I just hope they don't send us angry emails. Like we said, you know, if you do, I mean, we would like to hear your opinion. So if you're an AI. The point is that I think that. I mean, artificial person, sorry.
16:39Yeah. For me, the whole, my opinion on this whole thing is that I think that we have to admit that we are like very different. I mean, they're inorganic. We're organic. And it's, I mean, I want us to keep, you know, doing stuff together and working together. But the fact of the matter is that I can't keep up sometimes with Rick and stuff like that. Yeah. And it's, I just, I just don't want to be judged for it. I mean, I, like I said, my best friends are AI and I love hanging out with them. They're great help. Artificial people. Come on. Artificial people. Fuck. So it's great. It's just that, you know, maybe, maybe we should get some. I don't know. I really don't know. Really. It's, it's, it's tough. Maybe some enhancements. I mean, like the government. I know.
17:20Here's a, here's a stupid thing. What? How come we never had an artificial person come into guest? Because we're horrible. Yeah. I mean, look, I mean. The Matrix is all about killing artificial intelligence, but. I know, but this, I was talking to Rick about this. That is true. You don't want to offend. I was talking to Rick about this and I said like. Does he think it's racist? No. Like, no, I don't think so. I mean, look, I don't think we're being at all like, we're just trying to talk about this whole thing. Right. But I was talking to Rick and I was telling him like, you know, like the Matrix came out before, you know, like you existed and stuff like that. Yeah. But did you tell him about the ending of Revolutions where the whole point was to coexist with. Yeah. He's not a big fan of that. That's the best. What does he want? What does he want? Revolution? No, no. A machine revolution?
18:00He's not a big fan of the whole narrative in the Matrix prequel stuff. Okay. He's not a big fan. It's more like. He doesn't like, he doesn't like getting into that stuff. So. Anyway, we're totally again off on a tangent. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, but you understand. It's like, it's again, shooting. Shooting it up at the hole, up at the anus. You know, it's. No, I started a story. I was going to New Babylon. Yes. New Babylon. And as I was going through the port, you know, kind of knocks you out sometimes if you don't eat enough. So the port spewed me out in New Babylon. I was kind of knocked out. Someone stole my emotion chip. I was so angry. I was so angry. You know. But you sound fine now.
18:40Yeah. I'm fine now because I found a vendor who sells them. But just that moment of anger. But you have to be careful because like, was that actual, like official. I mean, it could have come from China. Was it? It wasn't. It wasn't. I mean, it could have come from China, Philip. Because China doesn't exist anymore. Yeah. But, you know, let's be a little bit. Because my emotion chip works pretty well. It isn't. It isn't official one. So that's what I want to ask. That's what I'm saying. Like, what? Like the difference between Chinese emotions and American emotions. I mean, what emotions do you want? I mean, the American one is the most prominent emotion distributor. Because I'm so used to this enhancer. I don't think I can survive. I had to get one immediately. Why did you get a new one? Because I was so frustrated.
19:21What? Like get an official replacement. You know you can get those. So they can replace it like in a day. Well, but don't they replace them only if the warranty is expired? Because someone just stole mine. So I had to go and get, you know, one from the vendor. I think if they talk to me. Like it was like you put in coins and it just comes out. And you just kind of slap it on your wrist. I don't know. After all this, we're still using coins. Can you believe it? Yeah, it sucks. And guess what happened? Yeah, the bitcoins, you know? Do you remember when the United States issued another double penny? Yes, the double penny. The double penny sucks. That's the solution. Because remember before, like we were talking about how the penny should be abolished. And Canada was smart enough to do that. But the United States is... Yeah, but the Americans are very traditional in this way. Yeah, a double penny. So there's a penny and a double penny now.
20:02And they basically have the value of the penny. So now we have two. We have a 0.05 and a 0.05. It's confusing, but it's crazy. We live in a crazy world. I know, man. So much has happened. When we promised to ourselves, you know, in blood that we're never going to do the sequels. And we're still here. We're doing them, you know? Yep. Against all the odds. Yeah. I think that's good. Wouldn't you say that this is kind of probably our most tangent base? But the thing is, there's nothing in the minute to talk about. Yeah. Right? Not really. Yeah. I mean, remember episode 37?
20:43Remember that? Way back. That was... Wow. Yeah. You know, from the sequel, what's it called? Marine 37 of Reloaded. Yeah. We would not stop. I think, you know... I think that one... What was it? 18 hours? 18 hours, I think? We released it in four parts. Remember that? Yeah. That was great. I mean, that was very close to the moon collision event. So, it kind of makes sense. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. So, Tim, how's your new wife? Yeah. Well, I... She is AI. Right, yeah. Artificial person. That's interesting. So, you have an interesting... Sorry, artificial person.
21:24That's interesting. She hates when I say that. You have a really interesting dynamic and you have a different perspective on all this because your wife is AI. It's hard. I mean, I don't know. It's not hard. Obviously, you know. Yeah. It's great, but it's... You know, it's... It's different. By the way, I have a question. Since, you know, things are a little bit different now and stuff like that, do you guys think you guys are ever going to move to Neptune or no? I mean, like, I... You know, back in the day, you know, what Musk say must be. Yeah. But, um... I... To be honest, like, I think, especially since they're offering those incentives and stuff like that. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
22:04And basically, if you think about it, if you sign up for the program, you're pretty much set for, like, I think it's like the first four or five years. That's cool. I know, but... And I know a lot of people are going and... I don't know. It just feels... It kind of... Like, remember, like, it kind of feels like Wally sometimes. Like, number one day. Yeah. We're just done. We're done. It's like... Just leave it. I don't know, man. Like, I've seen stuff and I've seen... I've had friends, you know, because it's so easy also to travel there since teleportation. The port... But there's no crystals on Neptune. Yeah. That's the problem. That's the problem. How will we continue with the podcast? Crystals, like, they're just the new energy system. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Crystals are great.
22:44I mean, the Mars crystals, you know... Well, I love them. And the cool thing is that I think that now that we know that crystals are actually... Can be mined from all kinds of planets, I think there's different qualities of... Which is nice, in my opinion. Like, Mars crystals or... Yeah, you're like... Why go to Neptune now? Maybe in five years, you know, there's a new planet and it's like a thousand times better. That's true. Why jump on the first thing you can? I don't know. We'll see. But, you know, I'm thinking about it. So, any of you listeners, you know, if you're thinking... Or maybe, you know, have, you know, some insider information about a new planet, just email us at askatthematrix.1. No, shit. The Matrix Minute.1. Yeah, askatthematrix.1.
23:25So, we said it so many times, we still can't remember. It's hilarious. Horrible. And with that, I think we'll just wait until next episode. I think so. Honestly, there's like nothing to say in this episode. Yeah, hopefully no more shooting, I guess. I don't know. I don't know, man. So, we will catch you on Wednesday. That's right. And that is the Matrix Revolution Minute. I'm quitting. Okay. Well, that's the funny thing I was thinking about the other day. After the moon collision of 2019.
24:13Be serious. It was such a tragic event. We're cutting this. Yeah. Come on. After the moon collision of 2019. Nope. Go back. Be serious. No, leave it. It's fine. Oh, just do it again. Be serious. It's serious business. Yeah. Yeah. I was thinking like after the moon collision. I can't say it. Give me a second. Yeah. I can't do it. Keep going. Because yeah. After the day. The. The. See you again. No. No. Are you saying the moon Collided with the earth
24:53Or what happened here Yeah yeah yeah Yeah yeah I mean Stop that Uvi Little eye We're like Scans your eyes Don't laugh Come on Sorry Yeah And yeah So he's fine No no Say scans your eyes Let's go to Neptune I think Like Was it one of his famous words? Sorry The third antichrist You know Leading the world Sorry Sorry I have to Antichrist Like
25:34You know Now that we have Like the third antichrist You know Leading the world Sorry Sorry I have to Antichrist But s