Minute 99: “I hate this place…”

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Transcribed automatically from the audio, and imperfect for it — names and punchlines suffer worst. Useful for finding a moment, not for quoting one.

0:00Welcome to the Matrix Minute, a podcast where we discuss the first film one minute at a time. Hi, I'm Phil. It's February today. Hi, I'm Jake. And did you know that January was the longest month in my life? I loved it. I loved it. I was very happy about it. It's just too bad I didn't do much there. Now I'm trying to do much by making up for that. Anyway, Tim. Sure, sure. What do you think, Tim? January was pretty long. Longest, yeah, it was very long January. Right? Wasn't it? Yep. It's just a universally long January. I stopped for a second there for some reason, yeah. But weather's weird and it feels like spring outside again. You should come over here. It was sludge snow. It's sub-zero temperatures and everything freezes because we have snow out there. It was snowing today. It was wonderful.

0:44Oh, really? No, no, no. It's just like fall and spring. Go for a run in shorts. It doesn't matter. I mean, it's like two or three, you know, maybe ten in the day. Well, there must be a glitch in the Matrix's weather system. Mm-hmm. Imagine that. Seasons in the Matrix and then there's like probably one of the programs running around, you know, like if we're talking about the sequels, there's a man who actually controls the weather. Does that mean that there's Mr. Sandman? Sati controls like the sun, but... Does it mean that there's Mr. Sandman here as well? Yes. The weatherman. The weatherman. So, welcome. Yeah. Welcome to Minute 99. 99. Yeah, wait, 99. 1999 is when the Matrix came out.

1:25Oh. Ha ha ha ha. 1999 is when... 1999 was probably one of the best years of my life. Of course, mine too. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Was it? Yeah, it's amazing. I don't... Oh, it wasn't, no, because your country bombarded my country. That's sad. Yeah. But I didn't go to school for most of you. I think... We were born, but on the upside, no school. I think in 1999, altogether, I went to school for two months. Wasn't it, just so everyone knows, it was the NATO bombings, right? Yeah, the NATO bombing of Serbia in 1999. It started in March. So, January, it was like still holiday. So, February, went to school.

2:05March started. So, you were having a really sucky time where we were living in the imperialist dream. Yes, yes, the imperialist of America making Star Wars movies. Yes. While I huddled in the basement. Sounds so sad. Hiding from tomahawks. It's very sad. We're making... Sorry, I'm not making fun of, by the way, the situation that was going on. I mean, like, where I was in the village, it wasn't like I was in immediate danger, but it was pretty sucky. I'm just saying... It was a pretty sucky situation, altogether. Yeah, I know. You told me some things, and it sucks, man. That really is horrible that that stuff happened. Yes. Yeah. But, like I said... In other news, well, look, anyway, on the bright side... It's not like the entire Earth was well off, because episode one came out, and that disappointed everybody.

2:47Yep. Great disturbance in the force. But 1999, for me, was great. First grade, amazing. Oh. For us, it was mostly late 1999. It wasn't early 1999. Right, late 1999, then 2000. We're not there yet. Yeah, that's what it is. It was magical. So, yeah, thank you for sticking so far. That's right. Late 1999, peeps. That's right. Thank you so much. If you're a person who listened to every episode since the beginning and tonight, let us know. And, you know, we'll send you a little message or a shout out or something. I'm curious if anyone's different from the beginning. Yeah, I'll draw you a little doodle. Phil will draw you. Everyone who posts, Phil will draw a doodle. Oh. Okay. Yeah. Or the first three. First three. Okay, fine, fine, fine.

3:27But where do they post? I'll draw them a little Trinity, a little Neo, a little Morpheus. I have to practice. Chris, I'm talking to you, dear listener. Hello. I'm talking directly to you and only to you. How's it going? I hope you're doing well. Does anyone of you want to talk to our dear listener? Thank you so much for listening this long. I can't believe it. It's wonderful. I mean, it's like, it's fantastic. Something that we made just because we had a little idea. And I would personally like to say thank you for listening. Thank you for being with us. This sounds like the last episode. It does not. It's not. No, no, no. We are moving to the new millennial, you know. Because the thing is that I realized that we don't address our listeners.

4:08The computer's going to turn off. We have to turn off all our computers before. And I would like to address them personally. And I would just like to thank you. If you've been here since the beginning. You were with us since the beginning. That's amazing. Because really, we just, like Phil was saying, we just started this podcast more or less because it was an interesting project to us. It seemed like a cool idea because you always liked the Matrix. And this was an interesting format. Wouldn't you guys agree? Yes. Yes. And if you're new or joining us, you know, not since the beginning, you are also very welcome. Yeah.

4:48And we would suggest maybe listen to a couple of the first episodes. I think we have a lot more trivia. I think so, yeah. And if you're listening, if you're sort of now in the late episodes, maybe check out. I'll go back to form. But it's like, I don't have anything else to talk about. I'm just talking. No, no. I think we ran out of it. There isn't anymore. Because, like, we can talk about the upcoming lobby scene, which has a lot of interesting... No, it's okay. All I want to do is just take a little moment and just change the tone for a few seconds because I feel like our podcast so far has been very much just us talking to each other, which is great. But I just wanted to address you listening because you are a big part of this thing. Because without you, it'd be pointless. Yeah. Yeah.

5:29Can I be a little transparent here? A little bit transparent? Yes. So at the moment of this recording, which we record usually like a week or two before the airing of the episode, we currently have about 300 listeners for each episode, which is, you know, to extreme professional podcast, that doesn't seem like much. But to us, that's a lot. And it's awesome. And we're still amazed that there's 300 of you, unique people listening. So yeah, so if we could hear from you guys, that would be amazing. Yeah. By the time we end this podcast, so we can chat back at you, you know? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Haha, deja vu. Haha.

6:10Yes. Tommy. So with that... And also, like, just after the podcast is done, like, after we finish with The Matrix, we'll obviously do, like, a big review of Reloaded and Revolutions. That's right. Oh, yeah. And we're definitely going to do those. And Animatorikoso. Yeah. Because it'd be a cool idea just to cap off our sort of journey in this Matrix land. Because that would be unfair if we just thought The Matrix, you know, got to do. Yeah. Just the reviews, though. Yeah, of course. I don't think I've seen those movies in 10 years, so I'm looking forward to that. Me neither. Cool. So with that, let us continue on and... 99. What minute are we on? 99. I mean, what I want to say is... 99. Can you tell us...

6:50All right, so... Minute 99. Perhaps we're asking the wrong questions, Agent Brown retorts. Smith, in an unexpected way, demands the two leave him with Morpheus. Now. Smith looks a lot more angry. Morpheus a lot more under the influence of the serum. Agent Smith tells him that he's going to be honest with him. And takes off his glasses and his earpiece. He leans in. I hate this place. This zoo. This prison. This reality. Whatever you want to call it. I can't stand it any longer. It's the smell.

7:31If there is such a thing. So guys, let me start with something interesting. Okay. Okay. We talked about how these backgrounds... Yes. ...are just printouts. They are. They have a technical term. Oh, please look it up while I speak about them. Yeah. The technical term. So what I'm talking about is that... Typically... Fickies. ...in film and television, when you have the outdoors being represented on camera, they usually don't film stuff in office buildings or in... Yeah. Typically, right? Office buildings. Stuff like that.

8:12Depends on what. Depends. Yeah. It depends on the budget and depends on the look. Usually, like, it's tied together. You know, like an indie movie will have it... Because of the budget, it will have it in a real building. But then also the light is not... You know, it's kind of hard. That's the key. I think the reason why they use these fake backdrops is because they have no light problems. Because that means... They just control it. Yeah. Yeah. They can control it. It's always up to their day. It's going to be daytime all the time. And that's why I do that. It doesn't change. The sun doesn't move. But also, like, you know, it adds to the professional blockbuster clean look. You know, maybe an indie movie would, you know, doesn't mind having harsh, like, lights and, like... I think that they do a great job because I'm always convinced by these backdrops in major films, usually.

8:52You'd never notice them. It helps with the film as well. Like, if you saw the same this and if you saw it, like, on a sitcom camera, like a video, you would immediately notice. Right. So I'm watching this show called Mad Men. And what's interesting... I saw an Instagram here, magical post. Did you see my awesome post with their sunglasses? Subscribe to Jake so you can see most of those Mad Men Instagram posts. If you want amazing Mad Men stories, you can see things like Don Draper with a cat on his head. Perfect. Is this the first, like, you know, like, HBO, like, our serious drama TV show? Oh, whatever. But you mean style. But, like, yeah, style.

9:33That you watch. Because I don't remember you ever talking about a show like that before. Hmm. Probably, I guess. I don't know. Usually it's like comedy, you guys. You knew about, like, TV shows. But not like this, you know, like Breaking Bad, Westworld, that kind of thing. Probably. I guess. Game of Thrones, yeah. Anyway, what I wanted to say on Mad Men is that a lot of the show takes place in office, in an office building. And since I knew about this, these backdrops, since the Matrix, Mad Men has a ton of these, you know, printouts in the back. And it's so weird. The printout is called Translight. Ooh, that sounds very weird. T-R-A-N-S-L-I-T-E.

10:15Oh. Strange. So the Translights in Mad Men. They sound like alien species. The Translights are coming. They're so weird because they're hit and miss. Because I'm watching these scenes and sometimes they look quite low res. Oh, really? You can actually detect the quality of them? I mean, I can't be 100% certain, but I'm just saying, like, to my eye, they seem like they're a little bit, they're not perfect. They're not perfect. Like, when we watch The Matrix, I think that none of us could tell unless we really look hard. And it's just so funny. And I remember watching an episode recently. Could be wrong with this. It could be an optical illusion, but I wouldn't be surprised. One of the characters opens the door to his balcony in the apartment and, like, yanks something

10:58out of the thing. And he shakes it? And it wiggles a little bit. That's amazing. And I think it's because of the wind, you know, from opening the door. Yeah. Especially if this trans light is small, I wouldn't be surprised, right? If the wind... Yeah, just like the force, yeah. The shockwave just from... So, yeah. If you ever watch Mad Men or are watching Mad Men or plan to watch Mad Men, just look out for those backdrops. Oh, right. Of course. The trans light is because it's... You put lights in the back. Oh, behind. Behind and in front. Oh. What? You're telling me there's lights behind it? No. In this case, I don't believe there's any lights behind it. But it's just called the trans light. Yeah, yeah. Okay. But sometimes they do that, you know, like if it's a backdrop and they want, like it's

11:39night scene, so they make little holes and then put the lights behind it so it looks like, you know, those actually shimmering lights. And it's also interesting when you watch TV shows, like when I'm watching Mad Men, I'm pretty sure that... Well, this is all... It's all artificial lighting, right? I mean, that's the only way you can make these shows. Yeah. To be consistent. That depends. I mean, outsiders, you know. I mean, let's say if they're in an office and you're shooting there forever, it's going to be artificial light most of the time. But also Mad Men, that's like a period show. So usually it is a set. You know, you don't actually have these kind of sets playing around. So you have to make it from scratch. Yeah. What's funny is that now when I watch shows like this or movies, you can really... It's that weird trick, you know, with your brain where it's like you...

12:21It's a trick. You can watch the scene. And if you imagine the lights being light and not natural light, you go... Like everything. Yeah. You go, oh crap, they're on a set. You're disappointed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you trick back into thinking, oh yeah, it's real light. It's daylight. We can see this in our minute, Agent Smith's close-up when he's like, I hate this place. There's just this box light clearly on the side lighting him. Like if you think about that, if you add that to your vision, you go, oh. Yeah. I mean, if you're a person who is thinking about that, you will notice it. But I have to say, something like an establishing shot is very important for people who do notice it to not think about it, you know? That's what I'm saying. If you have a shot before of someone walking outside, outside, and the next shot just matches

13:03the color immediately, your just brain will automatically, not even question it. I don't think about it normally, but I'm just saying, occasionally, if I go, oh, I see the backdrop, I'll go, oh yeah, and I'll remember it. Yeah, I'm just saying like as a tip, if you're a filmmaker out there, you're worried, like, oh no, they're going to find out my lights. You know, just do a shot before where it's nice outside. Yeah, totally. And then match that color. Yeah, yeah. That's what we were talking about earlier. Remember, in a couple episodes back, we were saying how Agent Smith was looking at the outside, remember, with the cars on the street and stuff. And it cuts back inside to the fake world. And we're like, this is it. This is real. Same thing. Yeah. I mean, I've never questioned this scene up until we are doing this podcast. I always assumed it was a real window. Because it looks great.

13:44And I have a fact for you. Oh. At the time, this was the largest Translight they ever did. Dude. Mm-hmm. Well, it's interesting because did we explain how the Translight works? It has these cranes. Mm-hmm. These cranes hold up. No, no, no. They put it up on a harness, like on the top of the studio. Oh, I thought it was cranes. Well, they push it up with a crane because it's so big. Like, someone should go out there and wiggle it. To do wind. So, of course, they added some extra buildings to hide, you know, the Opera House. Yeah, we did mention that. Sydney Harbor and stuff like that. Yeah. So, the context of the film, of the scene here is that Agent Smith, like Agent Brown is like, perhaps we're asking the wrong questions.

14:25What an idiot. And then Agent Smith gets so human, he's like, leave me with him. No. And they go away. They leave him. And there's this little... I don't remember that. When both Agent Smith... When both Agent Brown and Jones look at each other. Jurassic Park. Yeah, no, no. That was wrong. It was just like a... You should check it out. Can you repeat it again? Interesting. This is old man pooping. Wow. And they look at each other and they leave. Do you think this has happened before? Did they already know? I don't know. Like, this is the question of the minute here.

15:06Tank goes, they're coming for you, Morpheus. Don't worry. We don't get to see Trudy Orneo. You know? They're just... They're gearing up. I mean, they're already... Maybe... I was wondering how that would happen. Like, how does it feel to, like, get in a car and go... And drive to the government building. Maybe he just spawned them right there. You know? Use a pain phone. Pain phone. Pain phone. Use a pay phone. It's pain phone. Right across the street. The pain phone. Hopefully. Well, Agent Smith sits next to Morpheus once both the agents are out. What did you think when you saw that? When both the agents left and he's like, leave me with them?

15:47I think watching that, you know, previously, it kind of... It... On me, it had a different effect. It wasn't scary. It wasn't like, oh no, he's breaking the rules. This evil creature is now going crazy. What should we do? It's more like, he's being pathetic, you know? He kind of... That's weird, but it gave me the effect of he's losing it and he's, like, trying everything. And it's not a sign of trickery and of, you know, someone who's ingenious. It's more like a sign of, you know, he's losing it and he's trying everything he can. I think that's a good point. That's interesting. My theory was always...

16:28Well, my perception was always that... We get to see more about this character. Like, oh, he's... You know, we know something's different about him and now he's taking it off. Like, okay, let's hear what he has to say. And what's he trying to do for real? That was my thing. And it's very important for the... To have a villain, you know, to have... Because if he stayed Mr. Robot until the end, I don't think he would have... Well, because here... This is actually the first time, I think the first time, that we're seeing him truly distance himself from his colleagues. Yeah. He's just alone. He sort of has his own ideas. He's the boss. Well, he's the boss in the sense that he's... That's his employed status.

17:11But outside of that, he's... You think he's the actual, like, supervisor of these two? Yeah, yeah. I mean, in our show he is, but I don't think he's a supervisor over here. I think he is. I think it's implied. Yeah. It's implied to every... What, did they ever say? Yes, sir? No, they never say yes, sir, but whenever... But, like, he always does everything. He always makes the decision. Yeah. He's like, we have no other choice but a continuous plan. Deploy the sun and everything. Maybe he's just... And before that... Maybe he's just that kind of guy, you know? He's, like, very assertive. Okay, maybe. Maybe. I mean, sure, but I don't understand why he wouldn't be. I don't think he's the ranking officer of the ship. He is. And the others can go to hell if they want. Well, he's acting like it now. That is true. Maybe that's how they speak to each other.

17:52They don't know how to say kind words to each other. Maybe what he's saying is, guys, can you give me a second here? I really need to try something. But an agent spit this. Leave me alone. Leave us. Leave us. Yes. Well, then comes the... He sits down again. And he goes, I'm going to be honest with you. Takes off his glasses. I'm in love with you. Yeah, that's what it kind of feels like. When I was a kid, I was always thinking that. I can't stop thinking about you. When I was a kid, I was thinking that kind of like, what? Like... Ooh. Yes. You didn't? You never did? Sorry about that water. Because whenever he goes, I hate this. And I was like, oh, he hates everything.

18:32I hate women. I hate them. But I love men. Okay. Let's go back here. Let me just let you know. Because you happen to be one. That sounds really scary. Pathetic. There's this, you know, like I said, the setup, the lighting setup here is beautiful. Because you have that negative fill with the darkness and the shadow. And you have the side light, the soft box hitting him. And he's like, I hate this place. I hate this soft box. But to be honest, that soft box is not realistic. If you look at the frame at about, in our minute, at about... Actually, it's when he tells him to leave us.

19:12Agent whatever his face is, stands up. You can actually see the ceiling. The light is a big soft box. The actual office has a soft box. Like when I brought my lights to your apartment. That is true. And used up all the juices. And used up all the electricity, yeah. Hello. Can I say it? Mm-hmm. So Phil bought new lights. What kind of lights were those? They weren't LED lights. They were fluorescent. No, there were no LED lights back then that were good enough yet. But they were fluorescent. So you got these big, big lights on C-stands with like soft boxes. And you didn't try them out, I think, at that point. And we were going to take some photo shoots or something like that and try it out.

19:54And we did. And we were done. And Phil's like, why don't we just leave these on instead of the light? They're much nicer. And I'm like, are you crazy? You're not paying the bill. Yeah, yeah. I'd be like, at least a hundred times more than a stupid little light bulb. And then I'd be like, let's just sleep with them on. Yeah, yeah. Inspiration. The lights are so nice. They are nice, aren't they? Lovely. You know what? The sad thing is I don't know where they are. It's weird. It's sad. You never used them? I mean... It's sad. Never mind. It's sad. It's sad. We'll fix it. We have to fix this. We should use them. We'll fix it, but I can just go get LED lights.

20:35They're a lot better. Philip. We sell these and then buy LED lights. Philip, are you telling me what's so? Yeah. Just purchasing all these things. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Sell these and buy LED lights. The camera. Okay, okay. Just pile up. Let's go back to the minute here. I don't like this anymore. I need new ones. Let's go back here and just mention how scary Agent Smith is. He's not scary, though. Really? We know him. You feel the rage. You feel the... We know him from the show. He's got the golem eyes. Look at it. Blue with like red. It's so true. What Tim was talking about, it's so hard for me to take this stuff so seriously because we just watched it so much. I'm pretending I'm just watching this at face value. I'm pretending as well. It's been so long. It's been 100 episodes. Not yet. Not yet. It's hard to take. It's hard to continue. It's been 100 if we count the introduction.

21:16Yeah, see? That's true. Pop the cork. Oh, yeah. No, no. That's the sound. Cheers, boys. It's 100 episodes. There's no dings. There it is. Cheers, cheers. Cheers, cheers, cheers. Okay, come on. Come on. Wait, wait, wait. You don't want to talk about this beach? One of the best speeches in the movie. Like, probably the best speech in the movie. You should like it so much. He hates this zoo, whatever you want to call it. He can't stand it. It's to smell if there is such a thing. Well, give us some depth. Don't just recite it. Yeah, you're repeating it.

21:57He is so fed up with the Matrix. He is so fed up with this environment he was in. Who knows how long he's been there. He might have been there since the beginning, since he knows about the first Matrix. He could have been here for the... He could have been a bird. If we count the sequels. If we count the sequels. He could have been a bird flying around going, do you see it? This beauty. It's magnificent. It's magnificent. He could have been there since the beginning of the Matrix. He got shot. It's because if we count the sequels, there would have been already five iterations of Zion and five iterations of the one, which means it might have been around 400 years. You think he's been around for each one? Yes. Nah. No? Just this time. So if it was the evil Matrix, he was like a werewolf, and the good Matrix, he was a Teletubby? He was all kinds of stuff. A Teletubby agent.

22:37Let me help you. I think Agent Smith was only around for this cycle. Yeah? Yeah. They get new agents every time. It fits, yeah. And think about this. Why in the world would they keep the continuity of his memories? Listener, do you think so? I don't think so. Listener, what do you think? Like, tell us. Because I think Agent Smith, they just went, either reset him or make a new model. Like, this is the 2099 model. Yeah, why would they reuse? Like, and if they did, why would he have the consciousness? I mean, sure. That'd be a waste of time. Like, he would be a new instance, you know? Yeah, instance, yeah. Unless they really wanted him to learn something. But I don't know. These don't seem like they actually learn anything. They just like do your job. That'd be weird, though. If the whole system was rebooted and let's leave the consciousness.

23:19Of all these agents. That's what he would wake up and go, welcome boys to the third matrix. Maybe he's special because by accident they forgot to delete his consciousness. Ah, good. The other ones are new instances. Brand new, fresh. He's going to be the robot, you know, working overtime. Well, this is why he's... Through the spreadsheets. This is why he's so angry. He's so sick of it. He's turning human. It's turning him into a higher level of consciousness than... Consciousness? Consciousness than the other agents. Are you making fun of him? Are you saying he's conscious less? No. But then, this is also... I'll talk about the next episode, actually. We have another... We have a whole minute of Agent Smith talking in the next one.

24:00You're right. Okay. Next episode. So, thank you for listening. Yeah. Thank you. It's Monday. Let me just talk to the listener here for a second again. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We should... You should do that. You should do that. We haven't done that in a long time. What do you think about Agent Smith? I would be curious to know. Do you think he's, you know, an instance, a new instance each time? Or did he survive all these matrices? I would love to know. Is that the plural here? I like it. Is Agent Smith gay? Is he gay? That is a good question. Is he asexual? Does he have a sexual preference? Can he reproduce? No. Except the old way with the hand and the body.

24:40This is what Ridley Scott asked about androids. Any replicants? No, no. For alien. And I think that's just ridiculous. What? What? Ridley Scott, like, do androids have sexual urges? Possibly. Well, unless you put them in there. That's exactly what I was saying. Maybe they put them in to be even more like humans. Yeah. Unless they evolve from a single cell AI, which is impossible, they will not develop this. I mean, why would a robot need to, like, if an AI was created by itself, you know, like... I'm Ridley Scott and I can explain this for you. Like, they would probably work out a better system for motivation than sex. Tim, I think you're not looking at the bigger picture here.

25:21The consciousness of these replicants, you know, what if, who's to say that they didn't pop out of, pop into existence, you know, this sexual dessert. Sexual dessert. Great, thanks. The sexual dessert. Did you talk to Vangelis about this? I love Vangelis. Shut up. He makes all my music. And there's this sexual dessert. I mean, this sexual desire, right? This desire for the sexy times. It keeps me up at night. I go to Vangelis' place. You know, Tim, it's almost like evolution. It keeps me up in the morning. You see, Tim, evolution. I like that. You know what's weird? It's weird how like, I don't know, there's always a strange thing where in movies I always

26:04get this impression where they think that evolution is just this magical thing that just like you can apply it to everything. Yeah, yeah. Like, you know, robots. They make robots. There's also an evolutionary thing going on here. It's like, well, not necessarily. It depends how they're made. Yeah. I think it's like evolution usually means like iteration, you know, like better and better and better. Yeah, but I'm talking about the actual evolution, like what we talked about, like true real evolution. I'm saying like, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if you're this guy saying in the replicants, there's also this, you know, and that's why the sexuality is just, you know, it's sprung up into this. Sprung up, yes. It's sprung up. I mean, I have not gone to school in the USA, but I've heard, I've heard that, you know,

26:44the schooling system, it's not that great. It's not that great. As of the basic stuff. It's not that great. I have a friend, I have a friend, his name's Jake. He's a co-host of the podcast. It's called The Matrix Hour or something. I don't know. And he went to school then. He would, I think I talked to him, he said, yeah, not that great. You're right. Yeah. And especially of a lot of, there's a lot of Christianity still going on in some parts. Yes. The Southern Belt, where they might teach it and then they go the classic. And they say no. Yes, yes, yes. Yes. This is what I have to teach you because of our government. You know, our evil communist government is telling us. And I'll teach you this, but you all know, you know how it happened.

27:26Seven days. So I assume that's what we're doing. That's seven days. Well, six. Six, six, not seven days. No, no. First day was the single cell organism, second dinosaurs, and then third we came. No, I mean, you know. It's fast. That's three days. It's a new story. Yeah, it's true. Updated Genesis. Guys, Matrix, Matrix. People are here to listen to The Matrix. This is why we're not getting any more people to listen. Well, so I think that's why. We're enhancing the show. This sort of information and like the, like kind of like just having like a simple. Yes, I agree. Because I think that, yeah, because in the States it's like still a controversy when like the rest of the world has moved on. Yeah. I have alienated more listeners. Yeah, that's okay.

28:06But we're just like pondering it. But to be honest, like in Europe it's like evolution and all that kind of stuff in school. It's much more standard. But to be honest, if you ask like 80% of my schoolmates like how they actually thought evolution worked, they would get the same answers. That's true. That's true. I agree. I mean, yeah. It's, yeah. It's a common thing. I agree. I don't even know, to be honest, very much. I'm not very good. Join us next week for. Yes. Topics. Topics. For toppings on your sexual desserts. So anyway, guys, I just wanted to say that I hope I didn't offend anyone. I was just giving my opinions. I hope you did. You offended me. I wanted to talk about the minute.

28:47You will? Next minute. Okay. 100 for the 100th minute. Okay, so next minute we're going to try so hard. Okay. Next episode is just going to be Phil. Yeah, let's do that. Let's have Phil. And we're just going to agree and not agree. No. Tune in on Wednesday. Just Phil. Special. Me and Tim will talk 10% of the time. Yeah. We're just going to agree and agree. We're not going to state our statements or ideas. It's all going to be amazing. It's going to be great. See you then. It's going to be amazing. Later. I mean, like, what? It just. Oh, man, this movie is like, I'll never forget it.

29:35I'll never forget it.