Minute 62: “Why, oh why didn’t I take the blue pill?”

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Transcribed automatically from the audio, and imperfect for it — names and punchlines suffer worst. Useful for finding a moment, not for quoting one.

0:00Willkommen zu den Matrix Minuten mit Philippen und Jakoba und Timotheus. Guten Tag, willkommen zu den Matrix Minuten. Ich bin Philipp und es heißt Minute, aber was kann man tun? Ich kann keine kleine... Eine kleine Nachtmusik. Sehr gut. Eine kleine Cyphermusik. Ja, alles für mich, nicht für dich. Ja, das ist alles gut. Cypher und Nia sind... Wie sagen Sie das? Besten. Besten Freundinnen? Sind beste Freunde?

0:40Das Kugelschreiber und Schlafmütze. Wir sind in der schiften Shadow der mechanized death. Das ist nicht Deutsch. Das ist Englisch. Okay, we're back to now. Nicht gesprochen. Also okay, das kannst du nicht... Hey, weißt du was? Ich glaube, dass unser... Wie heißt der? Der hat... Mein Deutsch geht nicht so gut, aber... Weißt du... And I'm bad at talking today. Hi everybody. Prince Philip is bad at talking. Prince Philip. Prince Philip of the 10th country. Yes. Anyway, welcome to Minute 62. Hey, hey, hey. It's a Catch 62 world here. Just to remind everyone Philip is uncomfortable.

1:22He's not in this special place. I'm sorry. He doesn't have his incense just in the room and his bubble bath and his... Yes, his little slaves who pick the fluff between his toes. Sitting on fluffy pillows with his music playing in the background. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Relaxing. Okay, okay, okay. Yes. Okay, okay, okay, okay. So... And small Aborigines massaging his belly. He can only do good work if he's relaxed. Hmm. Okay, okay. Anyway. Minute 62. Hey, you want a drink? Cypher says. And they talk about why they didn't take the blue pill. And Neo coughs down some of that degreasing and brain cell killing juice.

2:06Cypher then gets serious and asks if Morpheus told him why Neo is even here and why he did it. Neo nods and Cypher makes an interjectory remark. You want a drink? What do you think of that? Great stuff. He wants a drink. Give him a drink. Now comes a really cool moment when Cypher again makes a more relatable down-to-earth statement, you know? Like he just goes, why oh why didn't I take the blue pill? It's office talk. Yeah, and to be honest, like I think Joey Pants does the, playing just Joey Pants, he's just playing himself pretty much. And he makes it all work and it all kind of fits together and it places the Matrix in a more, hmm, more, you know, like you buy it more.

2:50You buy the world more with this guy. It's funny, it's like, it's about acting, you know, you have actors who are great at acting as sort of characters that are far removed from their own personality. But, you know, watching behind the scenes and interviews with actors, I think what most say the hardest thing to really act as yourself, that's like, sorry, my sentence completely went to hell. The hardest thing is to act as yourself. There's people called character actors, right? They go and usually... They're called cactors. It's like John Wayne, Arnold Schwarzenegger, I think that's kind of what a character actor is. I would say some people think like, you know, Johnny Depp or someone like that, you know?

3:33Which is, you know, and completely, you know, what are those called? The chameleons, you know, they completely camouflage you, like you don't even recognize them. You wouldn't even recognize... No, sorry. What was that from? That was Linkin Park. Great. But I think it's really good. So I think it's really hard that you can act as yourself naturally and be actually convincing, you know? That is difficult because that's usually like the most cheesiest moments where it's like, it doesn't feel like acting. Acting has to trick you, but it also has to make it believable, which is pretty weird and paradoxical, but it works. Because some actors, like sure, you have actors who do comedy and they're always the same character,

4:14but if you really want to have to do proper drama, some actors just do the same character. They just act themselves. But it's hard to be honest to the camera and you have like, through your eyes, you have to like, give it complete honesty and it doesn't look, you know, fake or cheesy. I don't know what I'm talking about. No, you're actually absolutely right. I remember from the usual suspects, the guy who's playing one of the suspects. I think it was in the behind the scenes. What was his name? The older, older gentleman, the Irish actor. What's his name? I haven't seen usual suspects. Really? In such a long time. It's the, oh, a long time. I thought you said you never saw it. No, I saw it. It's the only Brian movie I like.

4:54Only Zynga. Brian Zynga. Wait, so what's the name for you? Yep. Gabriel Byron Byron. He was talking about like, you know, about that. That's actually hard to play yourself with a character. Such a thing. He's from Dublin. Ireland. Ireland. We had a guest from Ireland. Northern. Was it Northern? No, he was, he was on the side. No, no, no, no. But you said you had a guest from Ireland. Oh, right. No, no. An island. He's from Ireland, man. Oh, yeah. Sorry. I was thinking of Scythe. We completed the whole island. Oh, we did. We had that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We collected all the. An Irishman and a Northern Irishman. Yes. That's cool. So. Yeah, so they're just talking about, well, he ciphers like, here's some.

5:37Also, yeah, yeah. When he, when he does that and he says the blue pill and I think the movie really, you know, when the movie works, when people actually get what he's talking about and they kind of laugh at it and they like it. Yeah. I think that's kind of what happened, you know? So, you know, it's, it's a working movie. It's a movie where you're invested in the story and the, the world that they were building this whole time. Craziness. Yeah. Craziness. As he pours in some of that juice. The juice. What do you guys think of the juice? He again looks back. It tastes like. Look. He looks back. Oh my goodness. Again. He's a, he's a shifty little bugger. But, uh, what the stuff is, it's just alcohol.

6:17Pure alcohol. Yeah. Because alcohol gets rid of grease, you know. Or he's just like, or maybe they're just drinking, uh, petrol. I don't know. I really thought they were drinking petrol when I was a kid. I don't know. Because that guy gets rid of, like, stuff. Yeah. No, I thought it was like, I would imagine it tastes sort of. Like Hawaiian punch. Oh, Jay. No. Hawaiian punch. That's what it tastes like. Imagine that. Because it's a surge. Tastes like surge. Straight up. Surge. I actually don't know what it tastes like. But I just imagine it would be like brown. Oh, it would be a large tuna. Yeah, it's brown. Right? Brown. The big, yeah. The brown? Yeah, I just imagine it's brown. It's like also foam. It's kind of brown. Oh, really? No. Why would it be brown? I don't know. That's what I imagined. Because all the alcohols that are brown are usually brown.

6:58That's what I thought, too. I actually imagine exactly what Jacob said. Because of the cask. Yeah, because of the cask. Because they're usually in wine casks. And they get the color from the wood. Maybe they found a wine cask in the city. I would just imagine classic, like, well, like, clear arraki. You know, just like, just like water. Clear spirit. Like vodka. Yeah, like, like the original, you know, like, when it comes out. When you distill it. Maybe. Who knows? Who knows? No, see, I can discard it. I'm just throwing away. Like an old slunk. So he's, like, talking about the blue pill. He's talking about how, you know, we get to the part where he goes, did he tell you why he did it? Why you're here? The ominous moment. What do you mean? What? Why?

7:38When? Where? Well, he just gives him a nod. Yeah. Well, Neo, I think, is like, I think it's a situation where, Neo is sort of, I don't know if he's like on board with it, but he's definitely, you know, listening to Morpheus and what Morpheus has to offer. And in this situation. He's offering berets. Yes. And in this situation, I think Neo is a bit, I don't want to say embarrassed, but you can tell on his face that he's like, he's like, yeah. Yeah. I can give you a relatable situation. This reminds me so much of when you start to work in a new place, or maybe you start a school, and you know all the rules. You know everything how it is.

8:19You know, you don't want to deviate too much. You don't want to disappoint anyone. And then you start hanging out with a slacker or someone like that. And it's that moment when they, when, when you know that they suggest doing something that's not, you know, according to the rule, but you're so new, you're so scared. You don't, you don't know, you know, what the people, you know, how they're going to react. So, but you still don't want to, you know, you don't want to be uncool. You don't want to be uncool. You don't, you don't, you don't want to like, you know, be like the, the, the, the, you know, the, the nerd and go like, oh no, let's not do that. So you see that awkward situation where you're like, you're going to do what they're doing, but you're scared out of your mind. You're like inside, you're just like, oh no, oh no, I'm going to get fired. You also know that like, you wouldn't know what to do if you were caught.

9:00Exactly. You wouldn't, like, you're not the person who's leading this. So in the likelihood of you being caught, it's probably higher. And then it'd be horrible. Yeah, like Guy Fawkes. He wasn't a leader. It's almost November 5th, everybody. Is it November 5th when this comes out? I don't think so. No, I think it's, yes, no. Tomorrow's November 5th. No, we missed it. It was yesterday. So if you're live, no revolution has been done. No revolution again. Well, remember, remember. But it's just, it's classic. It's like, you know. Remember, remember, movember. Sorry. Anyway. So Neo's kind of embarrassed-ish, like Tim was talking about. And I don't think he's down with what Cypher's talking about.

9:42I think Neo wants to continue to see how far the rabbit hole goes. He doesn't want to, he's been looking, like, sure, Morpheus has been looking for Neo, but Neo has been looking for Morpheus for a long time. And he, I think, despite everything, he still wants to. They're meant for each other. Yeah. It's romance at first sight. So he still, he still doesn't want to support Morpheus, you know. Maybe, you know, he's listening to what Cypher has to say, but still. Exactly. So everybody's a man with a go-to. How many cabins do you think there are in the Nebuchadnezzar? That's a good question. Do people share rooms? Well, Dozer and Tank bunk, obviously. Obviously. They hold hands at this. Good night, brother. No, because when they were making the ship, it's like, you know, Tank and Dozer, your brother's

10:27the bunk, you can chill out. Just because we're brothers doesn't mean we're kids. Yeah, but Morpheus is like, next, Trinity. Trinity, you're a woman, you get privacy. You get the biggest room. And then Neo, you're the chosen one, you get privacy as well. Of course. I think they would probably stick Mouse with Cypher. Like, Mouse comes in, he's like, no, they have, like, they come in and it's like, oh, can I have the free room? And Morpheus is like, no, no, no, that's for the one, he's coming. No, that's true, he would do that. But it's empty. Look, we could find the one any day now, and it needs to be prepared. I don't want your shit in there. So go with Morpheus Cypher. I just thought, no, not the kid. Mouse, what have I told you about not losing hope? And he flips it to, yeah, to be positive.

11:09To be like a, yeah. What else? Do you think there were any other crew members? Yeah, Apoch and Switch bunk together. Probably. Bunk. Bunk together. And then who else do we have? That's it, right? Morpheus, of course, has his office. Of course he does. He's in just an office, he has a nice, you know, suite. You come in there, there's like a lot of kitchens. Shower and an office. It's like, he walks into it. Classical music playing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like Dallas in Alien. He's playing Mozart. That's where he can write his, you know, scripts. Prepare.

11:49He has a little personal computer, PC. He changes to a suit as he comes in. He's a faker. Also, he has a nice little section, which is even bigger. Like, not bigger, but it's like attached to the office, which is, you know, his memorabilia, right? Like, he has all these, like, finds. Yeah, stashes all those. Like a tooth from a saber-toothed tiger and stuff like that. Where did that come from? Well, you know, he read about safaris and stuff, and then they went and found it in the heaps of garbage and things like that, you know? Exactly. It's great. What else is there in that ship? I just find it funny that Tank and Noser aren't forced to be in the same room. Yeah. Well, you know, they're like... It's hilarious.

12:30It's like, you know, really basic, like military, you know, like small. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But Morpheus is like the sweet. And Trinity is fine. It's probably like, you know, they're like low on keys. It's like Morpheus has a key, of course, because, you know, no one can disturb Morpheus. Yes. But the rest of them are just crew members. They have to worry every time. Did you see, though, remember earlier we saw Neo's room has this, like, times 10 million security bank vault. Well, I thought everybody has those. Yeah, I was going to say everyone probably has those. Morpheus has a double door, obviously. Yeah. Just in case. Probably has a guard we haven't seen yet. This is my guard. Toby. I wanted to say that there might have been more crew members.

13:14Do you think that they could just kind of... Well, you know, they kind of like... I think... Yeah, I think there was some... Introduced everyone. I mean... No, no, I think there was some crew members before maybe, and, you know, it's like work. It's like, you know, they... What's it called? Oh, that's true. Like before, right? What's the word? Turnover. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe like you have like holidays. You take, you know, you take holidays in Zion. Like, oh, you know. Well, I don't know. I always thought it was permanent. I think... Do they have a pension plan in here? What about their social security? Well, yeah. Morpheus has all that. Shifts who's been... And his list is like a pension plan, so budget, 50% goes to me. Everyone else can figure it out. And he also holds like the treasury, you know, the money that they have.

13:55Is there money? There's no money. There's no money. I don't know. I don't know. There's a lot of people. He controls the goop. And I feel like in Zion, you know, everyone's fair or... There's no way that could... There's no money in Zion. I guess they're like socialists. Yeah, I think so. Like everyone gets a certain amount and it's like that's provided by a city. Well, I mean, you know, like the foundation of commerce is trade. So I guess you could just say that they... Ah, yeah, you could trade, yeah. Yeah. So trade without money? Just like classic, the olden ways? Yeah. But how... What would you have to trade if you don't... There's no field. Usually agriculture is one of the things you find. Someone made some berets. Someone found some, you know, masks. What would you make berets out of if you want? Pants. You have to start somewhere. They made their clothes, so I guess you could...

14:36No, they find them. What are you guys talking about? There's like endless field, endless sewers. Yeah, you can find out. Like you just stop with the ship and find some things. Like they're... Trinkets. There's definitely like... Trinkets. There's like, you know, salvage people going up into the surface and just trying to find stuff before... Well, that's how the shield is. So the salvage people hold the economy. They're the rich ones. Yeah, probably. You're right. Because they're all sourced comes to them and they can put the prices any price they want. And Morphus has ties with the salvagers. That's how he obviously got all his stuff. Ah, for his office. Yeah. I have friends. I have friends. Oh, come on. Formius is not that... No, I'm kidding. Morpheus. Morpheus is a good guy. I mean, he has to be connected. I mean, how did he become the captain of the Nebuchadnezzar? How did he become the captain of the Nebuchadnezzar?

15:17That's a good question. I think he was... Are there like this army or something? Well, you know... No, no, no. No, no, no. I think... Well, my theory has always been that people who become captains and stuff, they somehow get into possession of these ships and things like that. And I think that Morpheus, he's a really good, you know... He convinces people, clearly, as we've seen. Yeah. Manipulate. Not manipulate. He's really good at convincing people. So I think that that's how he, you know, rose up the ladder. And he's like convincing people he'll do this. And so that means that there was this like battle maybe against some of the machines that, you know, probably caught them somewhere on the outskirts. And then the captain was, in his dying breath, he's like, you're the next one. Probably, yeah.

15:58You're the next one to guide the Nebuchadnezzar into new dreams. Or Morpheus is a really good trader. He's a really good trader. And he built up wealth. And then he found the Nebuchadnezzar ship and he bought it. He's like, I'm setting up a crew. That makes you wonder because considering the sequels, we are aware, you know, in this movie, you kind of make you feel like everyone's on that mission. Exactly. I thought the same thing. I thought everyone in Zion are like the brotherhood and, you know, they all love each other. They're looking for the one. They all love each other and they're all looking for the one. Morpheus is one of the superstars. It turns out Morpheus is one of the weirdos. We can stop this. We can leave. Okay. What's happening? Battery low. Well, that's it. We ran out of time.

16:38And hopefully we won't run into time next time. So let's hope that the Matrix podcast of minutes is going to be. Okay. See you later, everybody. Goodbye. We have to go. I'm sorry. You have a good one. Have a great weekend. The Sentinels are coming. Turn on the E. The Sentinels are coming. Put on your hats. Put on your berets. Bye. Bye. Have a great weekend. Bye. Bye. Vielen Dank.